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riverbend

12-20-2007 06:00:11




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We broke down and bought a new new computer and it does not like our pokey dialup (about 2KBps on the PC running an old modem and generic driver, ~3KBps on a G4). The new USB modem only runs about .3KBps, i.e. very slowly.

Talking to the Apple and our ISP tech support, it does not seem like there is anything we can do but go to broadband. At our end of this dirt road, DSL is out of the question, cable isn't ever coming this way either, so it looks like wireless or satellite are our choices.

Satellite is less expensive (per month) than wireless, two of the neighbors have it and think that it is okay. Online reviews of satellite don't look so good. Wireless is higher priced, one of the techs thought that there were fewer links in the satelite chain, two neighbors have it and like it. Online reviews are better than satellite, but still not 100% positive.

What do you have ? Do you like it ? What don't you like about it ? Which is better ?

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Greg

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Tex P

12-20-2007 16:57:44




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
We had really slow dial-up. he BEST we could ever get was about 22kb, but it worked! Signed up for Wildblue. On those RARE occasions when it worked, it was pretty fast, but it would go down if it was cloudy, or sunny or rainy or snowy or, if someone drove by our house. It was terrible! Called tech support many times, usually got an answer something like '. . . well, if it's cloudy . . .'. They came out several times, replaced some parts, left, and, of course it didn't work. Finally, I noticed a sign for DSL on our road, and signed up. It is GREAT! Works like it's supposed to. Had a little trouble getting it going, but the tech support nerd was Fantastic. Knew what he was doing, got it going in about 5 minutes - all over the phone. BTW it costs almost $20.00 LESS than Wildblue. Anyone want a Wildblue dish and modem REAL CHEAP?
Tex

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jdemaris

12-20-2007 16:13:39




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
I've got it (Hughesnet) and it's not much better than dial-up, overall. Download speed is very fast - so there are files I can get now that I wouldn't of considered with dial-up.

Upload speed is pretty miserable. Considering my underground phone lines were put in late 1950s and in bad shape - I've got pretty slow dial-up. But, the satellite is just a hair faster. On a "best day" a 157 KB attachment sends in 35 seconds with satellite as opposed to 85 seconds with dial-up. It also has bad days, and there are many times for a few minutes, it loses signal and won't work at all.

Our original plan was - to get rid of the dial-up. But, we didn't since we want it for backup.

We've only got the $60 per month setup. For more money, we could get an uplink transmitter that's supposed to be faster.

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Carden

12-20-2007 14:53:22




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
If you go with satellite, make sure you go with a reputable installer. Any 2 way satellite requires certification to install. Transmission is usually only 1 watt/2 watt but if the dish isn"t pointed correctly you can cause huge issues with other communications and poor signal strength for you. This can lead to dropped connections, etc. I have certification for and have installed all three services - WildBlue, Starband and DirecWay (Also called HughesNet). WildBlue, in my opinion, is the best service.

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Ron-Mo

12-20-2007 12:49:21




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
Make sure your phone company will not be offering DSL. I thought I lived in the sticks and I do, but about a year ago they started offering DSL to everyone in the area. I live 4 miles from the nearest town (2 miles of which are down gravel and creek bottoms) and it only has a population of about 600 on the holidays. I pay about $40 a month and get over 2 Mbps download speeds (pay for 3 Mbps). I started checking around and litterally eveyone on their lines have high speed dsl offered - some much farther out than me for probably a 20 mile radius. If you are on their lines they offer it. They must have put some $$ into the phone systems here in this area. I was just about ready to buy a dish for high speed when they called and offered it. I did not believe it till I saw it work for myself.

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JT

12-20-2007 11:43:28




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
I went with a Sprint wireless broadband card, it works pretty good. I have a DSL at work, so I am spoiled a little, but it gets decent speed, kinda slow to download pictures and such, but for general surfing, it does a good job. It cost 29.95 for the card, after all the rebates and such, and is 59.95 a month for unlimited transfers. I checked into the satellite systems, and they were over 200.00 for equipment and over 100.00 a month for service, and the best I can remember, their speed was not all that great.
Jim

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IA Tim

12-20-2007 09:00:46




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
I have Wild Blue and can't complain. 1.5GB p/sec download for $65.95 a month. Upload is a little better than 100KB p/sec which is excrutiatingly slow, but I didn't have a choice where I am.



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Dan Bear Kelley

12-20-2007 08:20:24




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 OT: 3rd Option in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
I"m on microwave. I"ve got a good line of sight to the microwave tower. Point to Point, only. No roaming around town, but good speeds. Very reliable even with occasional weather issues. Cheaper than satellite. Call some of the internet providers in your area to see if they have microwave. El Paso County (Colorado) telephone company can"t even spell DSL.

I couldn"t even get a second phone line, without the phone company charging me for infrastructure that other folk would use. I have 12 wire-pairs from our house to the phone box, and they wanted $500 to run more circuits in my neighborhood! I thought everything past the interface unit was their business. Isn"t that why we have a utility?

I ran the microwave input to my router, so all the PCs in the house can access the internet at the same time. So, if you"re doing a home network, be sure to get a router, not a switch. A "switch" doesn"t have an input for a "WAN" (Wide Area Network). Our two main PCs are wired to the router and run Gigabit (1000 Mbps). We have one remote PC running on a wireless link to the router. "N" (draft) standard, so it runs about 300 Mbps.

One last thing. If you do set up a wireless network inside your home, there are TONS of precautions you need to take. I won"t get into them here, but...

HAVE FUN!!!

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Devin in Mo

12-20-2007 07:23:26




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
try att [cingular] broadband and take it anywhere you are i drive a truck and it goes everywhere i go 59$ month



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mechanic fred

12-20-2007 07:18:14




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
Santa Claus came early to my family, old dial up was like dog team to Nome! After gettin the wireless hooked up I bought a new Mac for the family. To many trees for satilite to the south but open to the church steeple to the east (at least while the leaves are off.) What a Dad won't do for his family!



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Allan In NE

12-20-2007 06:50:08




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
I use the birds. About three times faster than the wireless, but they'll make you cuss your mother when they don't work right.

I didn't have a choice. Lots of data to move and it has to move it in a hurry. :>(

Allan

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Charles E. McNelly III

12-20-2007 17:09:44




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to Allan In NE, 12-20-2007 06:50:08  
Hi Allen, looks like some secret government site in the hills to me. :)
Charles



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PatMz

12-20-2007 06:26:00




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to riverbend, 12-20-2007 06:00:11  
We're in the same situation. Some neighbors have satellite and like it. A good friend up north of Recluse, Wy (50 miles north and little west from Gillette) has satellite and it's great for them. They're 30 miles from cell phones, and 20 miles from pavement.

Some neighbors have wireless, but say that weather (snow, rain) degrades or totally cuts off the signal, and the speeds aren't what they were led to believe.

We can't get the wireless because of trees in the way, it's line of sight. And SWMBO doesn't want satellite because it's cheapest with television service and she's convinced my daughter and I will spend all of out time watching the Cartoon Network. I tried to exlain that there's RFD-TV and the Playboy Channel, but didn't get any traction with that!

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ddg

12-20-2007 13:08:21




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to PatMz, 12-20-2007 06:26:00  
search "Rural broadband" or something like that, you"ll get lots of info. I use broadband and it"s very quick, & they don"t restrict your usage. It feeds three computers here at home on out household network just fine, through a little router. Too far out in the country for cable or DSL. A neighbor uses Verizon broadband but it"s $10 bucks higher than the 49.95 we pay. Weather, snow or ice don"t seem to bother it.

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Karl Hamson

12-20-2007 18:51:48




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 Re: OT wireless or satellite broadband in reply to ddg, 12-20-2007 13:08:21  
We are in the boomdocks as well. There is cable in the area but the cable guys said no way the signal strength was enough to reach our house as our road kind of meanders through pastures to get to the house. However a straight line might do it. He gave us a 1000 foot roll of cable and said I will have nothing to do with this but you are welcome to try. My wife and I put a broom handle throught the cable reel and ran it tree to tree, along fence lines, etc. We had to bury it in areas the cows were prone to walking to get to water. Any way it works fine but evertime there is a storm we are anxious about trees falling and breaking the line. So far so good.
Karl

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