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n8terry

12-15-2007 19:37:05

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What is the most you have seen a 1954 super H with IH wide front with fenders, new tires, and a good paint job sell for? Also assume that the tractor was in perfect running condition.

Is it possible that it would bring more than $7000?

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Cruiser

12-17-2007 19:28:51

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to n8terry, 12-15-2007 19:37:05

Terry, I would think a good start in determining the value of ANY tractor would be what has been done/ spent on that tractor. Does the owner have any recepts to document what has been done? If you have not done a complete restoration lately, it can be a real eye opener. I personally forget very quickly about a few dollars more or less in price if I know I am getting quality, and am happy with the tractor. My 2 cents

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dwag

12-16-2007 17:46:37

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to n8terry, 12-15-2007 19:37:05

Look what people pay for a lawn mower! If I wanted a SH (which I do) $7000 wouldn't stop me.

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Rich Griffin

12-17-2007 14:36:41

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to dwag, 12-16-2007 17:46:37

Dawg-open your email,I will send pictures.

Thanks

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Steven f/AZ

12-16-2007 15:05:04

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to n8terry, 12-15-2007 19:37:05

I agree with you, Hugh. Actually, I'd be happy to pay $7000 for a Stage II Super H that was guaranteed to be in as-new or better condition. Relatively cheap horsepower considering what a new 35 horse tractor costs... and you know a SH will run at least 10k hours before needing much of anything!

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Hugh MacKay

12-17-2007 03:16:28

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to Steven f/AZ, 12-16-2007 15:05:04

Steven: Right on, but there are a lot of paint buyers on this site. Truly amazing how much some folks have paid for two gallons of paint.

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MN Rick

12-16-2007 09:36:41

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to n8terry, 12-15-2007 19:37:05

Not Long ago I seen one sell for 5750.00, so 7k isnt that far off. When you contemplate the fact that any runner with junk tires and average to poor metal sells for a minimum of $2000.00, it's not hard to imagine one bringing that kind of money. All 2000.00 will buy is a decent(not great)overhaul and 4 new tires. Doesnt seem to take long to spend $1000.00 hiring painting these days. That only leaves you $1000.00 of that 7k number to spend on incedentals.

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Hugh MacKay

12-16-2007 14:00:59

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to MN Rick, 12-16-2007 09:36:41

Rick: You got it, clutch assembly $400, water pump $100., radiator $350., distributor and drive gears $225., carb could run $200., hydraulic pump for a stage II $500., starter and geney rebuild $250., governors $100., rims for a SH $450., look at that I'm at roughly $2,500., and I haven't even touched the seat, throttle plate, gauges, bearings, seals, lights, etc. I've done most of what I have listed to 3 tractors. Could I get my money back? No, buyers can't see a lot of that stuff. Yet someone throws a bucket of paint over his shoulder, just happens to hit the tractor with all of it, and a lot of these guys will give him $3,000. for a $1,000. tractor.

$7,000. could be a reasonable price if one is absolutely sure all that has been done and done with new parts, plus a pro paint job. I've been up the road where one of my neighbors make the finish on old tractors look like new. There is a lot of hours involved, under some quite miserable conditions. I couldn't do it, couldn't stand the dust.

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NDS

12-16-2007 16:52:03

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-16-2007 14:00:59

I know what you mean I have M that I have spent over $2000 on, it did not have any major mechanical problems , is stil not painted and does not come close to being what I would call "restored".

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NDS

12-16-2007 16:51:59

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-16-2007 14:00:59

I know what you mean I have M that I have spent over $2000 on, it did not have any major mechanical problems , is stil not painted and does not come close to being what I would call "restored".

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MN Rick

12-16-2007 15:37:05

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-16-2007 14:00:59

After having onver 300 Farmalls come and go (as in tractor jockey/collector) I've found it's a lot easier to end up with too much in a tractor to break even than it is to turn a buck on one. Every time I've made the commitment to do one up right I end up upside down on it. That being said, it's still worthwhile to have them to enjoy. As time goes on, I care less and less about the paint and more and more about the originality and nostalgia.

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Steven f/AZ

12-16-2007 08:14:56

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to georgeky, 12-15-2007 19:37:05

Hugh MacKay said: (quoted from post at 08:07:19 12/16/07) Steven: I think herein lies the difference between restorer's that restore everything, and those that call an engine kit, a splash of paint and new decals a complete restoration.

The guys that go into such things as governors, rear end and transmission bearings, pto, wiring, carburators, steering boxes, etc., just every minor detail, are well known and their reproductions bring top dollars. One just has to go through the photo adds here at YT, 95% of the restored tractors are paint restorations. I can easily understand the disbelief, amoung YT readers.

I agree, the Sherwin Williams restorations are not true restorations - the ads should read "repainted, runs good." I have over $3000 in my '42 H just with mechanical rebuilding, and I haven't touched the transmission or rearend... or new tires, etc. No paint yet, either. To do something right costs big $$!

A tractor with a documented restoration (pictures and receipts) should easily bring whatever the receipts total and probably more.

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Gauger

12-16-2007 07:01:45

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to n8terry, 12-15-2007 19:37:05

I have little doubt that I will get that for mine, if I decide to sell it. I will have it at the '09 RPRU in Madison, WI and will probably hang a "For Sale" sign on it just to see what folks may offer.
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Steven f/AZ

12-16-2007 06:25:26

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to n8terry, 12-15-2007 19:37:05

I believe under the right conditions, a decked out Super H could possible bring $7k.

All it takes is two people who want it badly enough...

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Hugh MacKay

12-16-2007 07:07:19

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to Steven f/AZ, 12-16-2007 06:25:26

Steven: I think herein lies the difference between restorer's that restore everything, and those that call an engine kit, a splash of paint and new decals a complete restoration.

The guys that go into such things as governors, rear end and transmission bearings, pto, wiring, carburators, steering boxes, etc., just every minor detail, are well known and their reproductions bring top dollars. One just has to go through the photo adds here at YT, 95% of the restored tractors are paint restorations. I can easily understand the disbelief, amoung YT readers.

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Nebraska Cowman

12-16-2007 03:43:03

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to red460, 12-15-2007 19:37:05

n8terry said: (quoted from post at 23:37:05 12/15/07) What is the most you have seen a 1954 super H with IH wide front with fenders, new tires, and a good paint job sell for? Also assume that the tractor was in perfect running condition.

Is it possible that it would bring more than $7000?

Tractors are going up all the time. More collectors getting into the hobby and there are only so many tractors. Nothing much surprises me anymore. And look at what some of Mother Deere's stuff is bringing. It is high time that IH collector caught up. IH was King once you know.

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Hugh MacKay

12-16-2007 03:23:30

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to n8terry, 12-15-2007 19:37:05

Terry: For the most part I agree with Rob, however I know a guy has restored about 15 tractors. I also know his restorations all started with complete rebuilding of power train. He strips them end to end and has also done a 54 Super H. His Super H can't be bought for $7,000. It would take more money, but bear in mind a lot of folks know what went into his restoration.

Yes, I agree a set of pistons, sleeves and a decent paint job will never bring anywhere near $7,000.

I know another guy, has over 100 restored letter series Farmalls. I don't know his reputation for doing complete mechanical and cosmetic restorations, however he did tell me when he started over 30 years ago it was costing him roughly $2,500. per tractor. As of 2005 that figure is close to $10,000. Word soon spreads how detailed these guys have been, and I suspect they may get most of their money back if they decided to sell.

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RobMD

12-15-2007 20:47:23

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Re: 1954 super H/top dollar in reply to n8terry, 12-15-2007 19:37:05

haha, NO!

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