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Steve Mason

12-14-2007 07:00:12




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Thanks to you guys who pointed me to the blown soft plug on my hyd touch-control unit the other day.

I got the gas tank off and sure enough the plug was out.

I got a new one from IH dealer and it was loose. Are you supposed to hammer on the these things to make them fit tight? Since the new one was loose I pounded the old one back in.

I had originally thought maybe the oil I was using (ISO 68 heavy) had caused the problem.

(now please keep in mind my tractor has a loader on it with an extra hyd reservoir all piped into the original system and had worked well as long as I have had the tractor, 6 years or so)

I realized that I had recently replaced the filler plug on the loader hyd reservior with a new pipe plug (I lost the old one)

The old pipe plug had a hole drilled in it. When I put the new one on I had meant to drill a hole in it and had forgotten. After realizing this, I figured that the soft plug blew because I had not drilled that vent hole and had sealed the system. I drilled the hole and left the ISO 68 oil in the tractor.

I put everything back together and headed out to move snow. After about 5 minutes, POP, out came the soft plug again.

Do you guys think the oil is the problem?

Or could there be something else in the hyd system causing this?

What do you think I should do?

Also, the hyd oil strainer (filter) has a couple dime sized holes in the screen. Do you think it is OK to reuse or do I need to replace it?

As always, I appreciate and welcome all coments and advice from all who have more knowledge and experience than I.

Steve

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gab

12-14-2007 19:34:30




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 Re: C hyd problems continue... in reply to Steve Mason, 12-14-2007 07:00:12  
I blew the front plug out of mine one time. It had the IH snow plow on it when I bought it minus the lift arms. The previous owner used cables to lift it from the touch cont. arms. I can't remember now but I think the arms are supposed to be back when the plow is down and vice versa so when I changed the oil I filled it with the arms forward,(overfilled)plus the cable setup geometry isn't right and makes the plow bounce when lowering. In your case I'd put another vented plug in it and make sure you're not overfilled. Jim

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georgeky

12-14-2007 14:47:06




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 Re: C hyd problems continue... in reply to Steve Mason, 12-14-2007 07:00:12  
You can run plain old AW-32 hydraulic oil or SAE 10 thru 30 weight non detergent motor oil a lot cheaper than HY-Tran. Hy Tran is only needed when you have wet brakes and your C/SC does not.



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Steve Mason

12-14-2007 16:21:48




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 Re: C hyd problems continue... in reply to georgeky, 12-14-2007 14:47:06  
Thanks George! that sounds good to me - I like cheaper!!!

do you think that the heavy hyd oil is what is blowing my soft plug out?

Steve



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georgeky

12-14-2007 21:35:56




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 Re: C hyd problems continue... in reply to Steve Mason, 12-14-2007 16:21:48  
I doubt it. I would say you just need to swell your plug with a hammer put in new hydraulic oil, and you should be good to go. Some oils will foam and build pressure so it may be the problem. Not familiar with that oil..



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MN Scott

12-14-2007 07:40:35




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 Re: C hyd problems continue... in reply to Steve Mason, 12-14-2007 07:00:12  
You install the plugs bulged side out than beat on the center with a hammer thus expanding the plug in the hole. I would drain the oil and get HY-Tran hydraulic oil from your Case IH dealer. I would also not run it with the hole in the screen. That screen is the only thing that prevents debris from going thru your pump and valves.



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Steve Mason

12-14-2007 07:45:16




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 Re: C hyd problems continue... in reply to MN Scott, 12-14-2007 07:40:35  
Thanks Scott!



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504-2

12-14-2007 19:54:37




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 Re: C hyd problems continue... in reply to Steve Mason, 12-14-2007 07:45:16  
Steve, I don`t know how big a hole you drilled but mine has a 3/8 hole in it and 10w is thick enough.



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