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Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit

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Paul Mongillo

12-05-2007 21:06:26




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Does anybody have any experence with the spin on kit for oil filters for a Farmall A, Can you hide the modern day filter with the oringinal canister? does the kit require a certain filter?
or can you still get the original filters? any help on this would be greatly appreateded




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Paul Mongillo

12-06-2007 19:50:42




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to Paul Mongillo, 12-05-2007 21:06:26  
You guys are great!! You can't find this kind of knowledge in a book. I thought it would take weeks to get these great answers. At least now I can go get this filter and maybe not look so dumb, I may even sound like I now something they don't! Thank You



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Hugh MacKay

12-07-2007 13:38:05




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to Paul Mongillo, 12-06-2007 19:50:42  
Paul: We have all kind of graduates like you, great spirit, and a desire to know as much or more than the guy your buying from.



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big fred

12-06-2007 07:13:14




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to Paul Mongillo, 12-05-2007 21:06:26  
There are two different filters for the A, B, C. I don't recall where the switch occurred, but at some point the height of the filter changed. The two are not interchangeable unless you change out the canister and center bolt also. I have a '41 B and a '45 A and they have two different filter heights.



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big fred

12-06-2007 07:14:11




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to big fred, 12-06-2007 07:13:14  
BTW, they're both available at NAPA, so if you measure the height of your old filter, you can get the right one.



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big fred

12-06-2007 07:28:19




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 here ya go in reply to big fred, 12-06-2007 07:14:11  
For SN 97938 and lower use NAPA 1125 or Baldwin PT70 (this one is 7 11/32 long)

For SN 97938 and up use NAPA 1172 or Baldwin PT71 (5 11/32 long)

Yeah, I know there's an overlap at SN 97938. If you own that tractor, better get one of each, according to the Baldwin website. ;o)



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loko

12-06-2007 06:53:11




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to Paul Mongillo, 12-05-2007 21:06:26  
Yep, NAPA.



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tractorsam

12-06-2007 02:59:54




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to Paul Mongillo, 12-05-2007 21:06:26  
I've worked on one of these tractors that had a spin on filter and it was shorter and fatter than the original cannister so you'd have a hard time ever making it look original. tractorsam



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City-Boy McCoy

12-06-2007 02:46:50




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to Paul Mongillo, 12-05-2007 21:06:26  
Paul:
Original filter at NAPA, #1172. mike durhan



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Hugh MacKay

12-06-2007 02:36:57




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to Paul Mongillo, 12-05-2007 21:06:26  
Paul: Twenty years ago CaseIH were selling a kit for converting to a spin on filter. The reason I know this is a parts guy I dealt with regularly back then suggested I might want to change. I didn't change, however from what I was shown I don't think one could ever mask it with the old cannister. The base for the spin on filter fits into same grove as the old cannister, plus one would have to devise an outside attachment to keep it tight. I don't know whether they still sell that kit. I go to CaseIH roughly twice per year, have never noticed the kit, nor has any other parts guy asked me which type filter if I'm buying filters. I'm thinking that kit may have died a death of non acceptance.

You can still get the old type filter from CaseIH. Most auto parts stores have them, or at least can order them. I know Fram make them, probably other suppliers have them as well. All Farmalls with C-113, C-123 or C-135 engine use the same filter, thus I expect there are still more of those on the go than Ford or Chevy inline 6 cylinder engines. Probably more than some of the older V8s. As long as those numbers exist someone will manufacture those filters. I'd almost bet the number of actively operating small Farmalls is actually on the increase. I've been on YT close to 8 years now, and the numbers of these little tractors being pulled out of sheds they've been parked in for 20 years, restored and put back into service is amazing. There are actually new parts manufactured for these tractors today, that no one was manufacturing 10 years ago. Somewhere in the order of a million Farmalls with C-113, C-123 or C135 engines were built, it will surprise you the high percentage of them still going.

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georgeky

12-06-2007 06:29:09




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-06-2007 02:36:57  
Hugh, my IH man Brad, showed me a paper sent to him a few years ago by CaseIH, that said they thought that around 90% of the 100,130& 140's ever built were still in operation. It did not mention the A or SA, but lots of those are as well. I don't know where or how they got this figure, but that was the estimate I saw. If this is anywhere close that is an amazing number after all these years.



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Hugh MacKay

12-06-2007 07:26:24




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to georgeky, 12-06-2007 06:29:09  
George: That doesn't surprise me, and I'll bet the Super A is not far behind. The A may be starting to fall a bit behind not having hydraulics. 10 years ago there were a lot of offsets, parked in grandpa's barn, he didn't use it but he also wouldn't part with it. A lot of those are coming on the market as families part with grandpa's estate. I don't think the C, SC, 200, etc are far behind. Those little tractors, both sizes, are very popular with folks wanting a light tractor for yard work.

You think about it, often time you'll buy these for $1,500. to $3,000., maybe even a few implements for a bit more. Even if one has to spend $1,500. to put it in top shape. Once you have this done for under $5,000., maybe 6, you could count on quite economical operation for 25 years. Now, I ask you, stack that against a new compact Deere or Kubota.

If my yard work involved a bit of earth moving, I'd add a skid steer, and use the tractor to pull the trailer loads of earth. I've always found a skid steer one of the best cash cows to have around. There are always folks wanting material moved in tight quarters.

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georgeky

12-06-2007 08:41:15




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-06-2007 07:26:24  
Hugh, you don't have to convince me, as you well know, I am a firm believer in those little gas tractors. There are still hundreds and hundreds of them around here working. Mostly cultivating duty, but working none the less. Lots of old tenant tobacco farmers have only a SA or 100/130/140 or two. They are probably the most dependable, long lasting tractors going. At least one of them.



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Vern

12-05-2007 21:24:19




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 Re: Farmall A spin on oil filter conversion kit in reply to Paul Mongillo, 12-05-2007 21:06:26  
I get my filters at NAPA
'48 SA.

Vern



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