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Jeef

12-04-2007 18:31:24




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I am looking at a 574D. Are these a good reliable tractor? I intend to use it for loader work and grading.

It has what looks like a freeman 400. What kind of lifting capacity can I exoect out of that loader?

Thanks.




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Harold Hubbard

12-05-2007 04:34:09




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to Jeef, 12-04-2007 18:31:24  
I have used a 574 and it is a slick loader tractor, that left-hand F-N-R shifter lets you keep control of the loader with your right. You do sit down pretty low in it, but that seems more of a problem with a trailing implement like a hay baler. The real problem with the seating position is HEAT. When moving snow or feeding cattle in the winter it is a bonus, but take it out in the hayfield at 80+ degrees, and you will be wishing you were somewhere else. You are sitting down there, tucked in between the loader frame, the fenders, and the saddle tank, and there is no airflow past you except directly from the engine. Meanwhile the transmission underneath you is cranking out the BTUs, and under the left foot plate is the muffler. It adds up to a pretty warm environment.

Another minor annoyance is the remote hydraulic control, you have to bend down to reach it. If you are used to dropping your hand right onto the handle, it will really bug you. If the loader runs from the remotes, rather than having its own valve, it can get really uncomfortable to operate. The newer models have extended handles for the remote, and I have seen some home made extensions on the 74's. It depends on what your main use for the tractor is, for a dedicated loader and chore tractor I would recommend it, for summer field work no.

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georgeky

12-05-2007 08:29:31




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to Harold Hubbard, 12-05-2007 04:34:09  
Harold, not all 574's are set up that way. Some have muffler through the hood. Some also have the optional long hydraulic control handle. Dads 584 has that short cast iron handle, but mine has the optional long steel handle on it. There is a big difference. We made an extension that is attached to the short handle with a u-bolt. Works good. Take that loader off when not using it, and the tractor will cool off 20 degrees.

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Harold Hubbard

12-05-2007 15:18:26




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to georgeky, 12-05-2007 08:29:31  
Not my tractor, but I have put a lot of hours on it. It belongs to the owner of a farm where I rent the hayfields. Part of the arrangement is that the owner makes the tractor available to me if I need it. It is a gas job, which would probably be hotter than a diesel. It is also a utility, flanged rear axles, sweptback front axle, and underslung exhaust. When I use it, it is either for the loader, or it is an emergency, and I don't have time to remove the loader. I have unpinned the bucket itself a couple of times when I had it for more than one day and the owner didn't need it. This has an IH 2050? loader on it, which I think is overkill for that size machine. The whole machine has been rode hard and put away wet, and I am always nervous when I use it. The lights don't work the gage faces are scratched and yellowed to where you can't read them. All the warning lights are hanging down somewhere behind the dash, and the hood and grill are all smashed in from loading trucks with it before he got it. The exhaust manifold is cracked and has been welded over and over, because he bashes the muffler and pipe repeatedly while brush-hogging on rough ground. I did replace the parking brake when I had the trans open three years ago, but I don't think he uses it.I have given up fixing small annoyances on it because the repairs get torn up as soon as the owner uses it. He spent too many years on a timberjack skidder when he was younger, and hasn't gotten over it.

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georgeky

12-05-2007 17:13:57




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to Harold Hubbard, 12-05-2007 15:18:26  
Dads 484 is the same way as far as heat goes. It is in excellent shape, but has an old Freeman loader frame on it. It does have upright exhaust, but it will still roast your brains out. He never uses the loader, but will not take the frame off. It is mine and he is afraid I might want it back. It is bareley better than a pitch fork, and I don't want it. I have a new Allied loader.



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Fromjb2

12-04-2007 20:28:52




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to Jeef, 12-04-2007 18:31:24  
Re 574, it has D239 same as 674 and 684 only difference injection pump is turned down to 52 HP on 574 and 62 HP on 674. The 674/684 have larger rear tires. Several farmers that I know bought 574 because it was cheaper than 674 and then turned the pump up to match 674. When IH released 584 it had the smaller D206 that could only be turned up to about 60HP. The newer 495,595,695 were not as good as previous models as pump was turned down to meet newer emission standards.

My thoughts
JimB

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chuck46

12-04-2007 19:46:06




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to Jeef, 12-04-2007 18:31:24  
Hi Jeef, The 574 should be a very reliable tractor. I have a 584, I don't think there were any major changes between them. They have the 206 German engine, which is the 756 cut to a 4 cylinder. Don't know about the loader but the tractor should have a good hydraulic system. The only things I don't really like is the way the 3point is made, and how you set down too low between the fenders. Good luck, Chuck

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Jeef

12-04-2007 19:55:29




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to chuck46, 12-04-2007 19:46:06  
I noticed that you do sit down low. It makes it hard to see the bucket and what it is into.

I was already trying to figure out how to raise the seat up.

The tractor seems to be a good runner. It started today right off in 32 deg weather. It didn't rattle like most diesels I have been around. I need to look it over good in the daylight. For 5500 with the loader, it seems well worth the money..
I am used to massey's. The dealer had a chance to sell me one but seemed to think the 574 is a better unit. Any comments are welcomed.

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georgeky

12-04-2007 19:51:57




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to chuck46, 12-04-2007 19:46:06  
584 has the D206, but 574 has the D 239 in it. They are both very good depndable engines with plenty of power and good fuel economy.



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chuck46

12-04-2007 20:01:52




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to georgeky, 12-04-2007 19:51:57  
Hi George, Thanks, it is more like the 684 then, it has quite a bit more power. The weather has turned cold in Minnesota now, about 8 inches of snow. Chuck



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georgeky

12-04-2007 20:07:32




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to chuck46, 12-04-2007 20:01:52  
Nope, the 574 and 584 are rated at the same HP. We have 2 584's and one 574, they pull about the same. Either will handle 3 X 14 plow anywhere. The seat should have a knob on the back side of the backrest. Turn it clockwise and it will raise your seat some. Maje a stiffer ride though.



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chuck46

12-04-2007 20:09:55




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to georgeky, 12-04-2007 20:07:32  
I have a 584 and 684 there is a noticable difference



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georgeky

12-04-2007 20:15:11




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to chuck46, 12-04-2007 20:09:55  
Yes, but the engines are set up different between the 574 and 674 or 684. Fuel pumps are calibrated different. I also have a 684, and it isn't that much stoughter than my others, however I had a brand new 585 CaseIH that didn't have the power dads 484 has. It was suppose to still be the same as 584, but they fooled with the pumps and it was a weak POS.



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chuck46

12-04-2007 20:21:10




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to georgeky, 12-04-2007 20:15:11  
Thanks George, Now you make me wonder if my 584 is weak or the 684 is strong.



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georgeky

12-04-2007 20:29:11




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to chuck46, 12-04-2007 20:21:10  
Never had the weak problem with a 584, but sure did with that 585. There is a 10 HP difference in the 584 and 684. Both of mine have plenty of power, but the 684 is a little better on PTO jobs like grinding corn. The 585 wouldn't even pull the grinder. It may have just been a lemon, but it was junk the day I brought it home. The dealer sent the pump off and had it recalibrated, and it was some better, but smoked like crazy, and still didn't have the power the 584 had.

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chuck46

12-04-2007 20:35:03




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to georgeky, 12-04-2007 20:29:11  
10 horse I could believe. Mine don't have to work too hard, the 584 spends a lot of time on the baler. I have a 2255 loader for the 684.



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georgeky

12-04-2007 20:41:26




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to chuck46, 12-04-2007 20:35:03  
I have baled lots of hay with the 584, and there isn't any much better at it. Dad has a 695 with a cab, and it isn't as strong as any of the IH 84's.



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chuck46

12-04-2007 20:50:05




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to georgeky, 12-04-2007 20:41:26  
I have often thought I would like a 544, but there isn't any of them around here. I have always liked the 350D, a 544 would be a newer version with a better engine.



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georgeky

12-04-2007 21:18:52




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to chuck46, 12-04-2007 20:50:05  
I would like one myself. What is wrong with the 350 engine. I have one and it has been a very good one. Has lots of power, and burns less fuel than any I was ever on. Parts are ridicules for it, but other than that they are good engines. I use mine every chance I get. It is one of my very favorite tractors. I use it most the time to bale hay with.



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chuck46

12-05-2007 08:22:27




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to georgeky, 12-04-2007 21:18:52  
Parts are the only thing, I have both a farmall and utility. I do like them but my tractors all get a lot of hours and the next time I have to rebuild the engine may be a problem. The utility has been setting because the steering gears are shot and no longer available.



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georgeky

12-05-2007 08:42:15




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to chuck46, 12-05-2007 08:22:27  
If you got the money, parts for the GD-193 ain't a problem. Complete overhaul kits are available in sets. (ie) piston/sleeve set, bearing sets, gasket sets and so on. 2000 bucks or there abouts. I have mine down now putting in rings, and fixing fuel pump leak. Sent one injector off for a new nozzle. I hope to get it back up by hay season, but who knows. It works real good with the 100 FH mower. Got a 450 diesel next on the list. It runs good but has a few problems. Leaks mostly. Going to even paint my 350 this time. I ran it for 15 years fairly hard before I parked it. The old man who bought it new has it rebuilt once before I got it. The tach was showing 6400 hours when I got it, but didn't work. The little gear at the genny was stripped. I got a new one and got it working 2 or 3 years before I parked. I got a buddy that has two overhaul kits for the 193. I am thinking of buying one to put up for a rainy day.

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Jeef

12-07-2007 00:53:33




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 Re: 574 questions in reply to georgeky, 12-05-2007 08:42:15  
What is a reasonable price for a 574 with a freeman loader? It has rear hydraulics and the loader is run off of the tractor not a external hydro pump.

I am having a tractor mechanic I trust check it out befor I buy it. only issues I see is faded paint, a seeping leak in the area under the seat and the loader has been repaired in the bends at some point.

Thanks



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