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Info on the W series tractors

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Curt from MN

11-19-2007 09:53:11




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third party image I know there are several W series tractors but can find little info on them. Where do they fit in the progression of the lines? IE. 350 replaced H ect. How do they compare to the C, H and M for power and equipment as far as live hydraulics and PTO and interchange of parts? Found a couple of pictures and look similar to the H or M but with the front wheels set back farther. How did this affect the stabiity and turning?

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Athol Carr

11-19-2007 14:33:16




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Curt from MN, 11-19-2007 09:53:11  
The W-4 replaced the W-12 and W-14. A bit (1/4 ton) heavier than an O-12. Very popular in New Zealand for the smaller farms though not as popular as its bigger sister the W-6 and WD-6.



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F-Dean

11-19-2007 13:34:18




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Curt from MN, 11-19-2007 09:53:11  
Don't forget that the W-6 replaced the W-30!



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Evan350

11-19-2007 14:15:02




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to F-Dean, 11-19-2007 13:34:18  
Would you also say that the W-9 replaced the W-40?



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John M

11-19-2007 15:22:07




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Evan350, 11-19-2007 14:15:02  
Well, sorta, the A and B, while replacing the 12/14, was introduced as a new line, and the H,4 was marketed as a replacement to the 14, the M,6 the -20, Dont know on the -9 to 30, but would assume the 9 repalced the 30, again as marketed.



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Scott Rukke

11-19-2007 10:32:38




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Curt from MN, 11-19-2007 09:53:11  
Do the W-4's have much value? I know there were not a whole lot of them produced compared to the other letter series. There is a complete one by me for sale, non running and not stuck for sale. It is all there and the owner thinks the starter is shot. It is complete and solid and they are asking $1000.



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Mike Heitmann

11-19-2007 10:48:18




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Scott Rukke, 11-19-2007 10:32:38  
Sold one at my Auction in MT last Month for $3200. It was not running but turned over and had good compression. Tin was real straight. Needed paint. Tires fair.



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glennster

11-19-2007 10:12:39




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Curt from MN, 11-19-2007 09:53:11  
the w series were the standard version. they were primarily designed for heavy drawbar work and belt work for threshers ect. w-4 was the h, w-6 was the m, w-9 was the big dog. the w-4 was gas or distillate, i do not believe there was a diesel in the us, but overseas there may have been. the w-6was in gas distillate and diesel. then there were later super 6's and sw6-ta's. the nine was gas, distillate and diesel, w-9 and wd-9. there were only diesel super w-9, there were also orchard versions, the o-4 and os 4, and also industrals i-4, ect.

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glennster

11-19-2007 10:16:04




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to glennster, 11-19-2007 10:12:39  
here is my w-9 by my cub, quite a size difference
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the Unforgiven

11-19-2007 10:06:38




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Curt from MN, 11-19-2007 09:53:11  
4 is an H, 6 is an M, and a 9 is big. About the same tractors in a "standard tread" version. Have seen a couple cute W-2s made out of an A.



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Charles E. McNelly III

11-19-2007 14:38:28




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to the Unforgiven, 11-19-2007 10:06:38  
Hi Unforgiven, Any chance you might know the guys with the little W-2? I have a A and a B that I wouldn't mind converting over to go with my W-6. Thanks,
Charles



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Danto

11-19-2007 18:22:49




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Charles E. McNelly III, 11-19-2007 14:38:28  
I would also be interested in seeing how to convert an A to a W-2. I have a W-4 and W-6, and an extra A that I could make a W-2 if I knew how!



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Haas

11-19-2007 18:37:49




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 Re: Shop mule photo in reply to Danto, 11-19-2007 18:22:49  
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Here's the Mule



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Haas

11-19-2007 18:31:34




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Danto, 11-19-2007 18:22:49  
Go into the photo archives and look for the Hebard Shop Mules. That will show you what a converted A looks like. These were Manufactured by Hebard Company in Chicago using IH parts. If there ever would have been a W-2, this would be it.



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Charles E. McNelly III

11-20-2007 16:25:20




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Haas, 11-19-2007 18:31:34  
Thanks Haas, I was curious about the frontaxle and steering setup along how they moved the foot pedals around.
Charles



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Haas

11-22-2007 06:45:09




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to Charles E. McNelly III, 11-20-2007 16:25:20  
They completely redesigned the axle and steering mechanism. The steering setup is similar to the W series, using a Ross Steering gear. The front bolster is a steel frabricated piece and the front axle is maybe a 2 inch by 3 inch steel bar. The original A spinkles were cut of and re welded to the steel bar axle. The seat is mounted over the transmission gear shifter, and thus there is a linkage for the shifter to move the shift lever forward. The drawbar is attached to a heavy steel frame that surrounds the torque tube and the transmission housing. Final drives are rotated forward to lower the profile of the tractor. Bolting is not semetrical, so an adapter plate is required to rotate the final drives. When final drives are rotated, the brake rods point up, so new linkage required. Only one brake pedal for both sides with hand levers for individual braking if desired. Levers not very useful, as you don't have enough hands to work everything. Original mules had only a foot throttle. Many have been converted to have a hand throttle as well. Converting an A could be done, but it would be a major project.

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Evan350

11-19-2007 13:03:18




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 Re: Info on the W series tractors in reply to the Unforgiven, 11-19-2007 10:06:38  
The attached link lists them all, but doesn't explain how they relate to the Farmall series of tractors.



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