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Hugh MacKay

11-17-2007 15:32:28




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The last couple of times I use my Woods model 59-HB-1, I notice a heat build up on housing down near blade. When I grease, right from the very first pump, grease comes out the top, leading me to believe the top seal is gone, thus it will not force grease down to the bottom bearing. I'm basically through with it for the season. Just trying to decide how quick I should delve into this. When I turn it by hand, I hear rough bearings. Probably best to replace all bearings and seals. Any thoughts on what I'm getting into.

I bought a new belt two years ago, the old one is still going and I though it looked quite ragged back then.

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Hugh MacKay

11-18-2007 02:43:45




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 Re: Warm not hot in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-17-2007 15:32:28  
gene, Dave and Haas: I'm the type of guy that makes the rounds during breaks in operation of a machine, will lay my hand on all bearing housings, even with a new machine. I've done that at the end of each mowing since I got this mower. These bearings are not hot, just that I notice more heat than in the past. I can still comfortably lay my hand on the housings. I don't feel any heat above the mower deck, on top end of casting, just near bottom within 1-1/2" of the blade.

I don't see any cracks as you mention Haas. I suspect I have been using too heavy grease, and a bit too much as well. Probably moly or the Deere corn head grease would be better. Dave, I doubt if my pullies will be a problem, this mower is equipped with tapered sheaves, the type one removes 1/4" bolt and reinstalls it to separate the two tapered portions.

I guess I'll have to judge each bearing as I see it. I have a feeling I know what Woods are dealing with when they recommend shaft change, lot of these mowers have mowed rock piles in 3rd gear. One just has to read YT forums to understand that one. I know the history of this mower, guy that bought it new just passed away in his late 90s, second owner is older then I, plus knowing where this mower mowed, I doubt if a blade has ever struck an object heavier than a golf ball.

I'll keep you posted on what I find as I get into this. Right now I have the shop full of dismantled disk harrows. I have room for me, maybe one visitor at a time, definitely not SA and mower.

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Haas

11-17-2007 18:20:36




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 Re: Woods belly mower experts in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-17-2007 15:32:28  
Woods recommends to replace the complete spindle. Never done anything to the spindle bearings on my mower except lube them. I expect the complete spindle is not cheap. Check out the spindles good. I've noticed some cracks starting to appear in the spindle housings on my 30 year old mower. Also, I note that the manual for my mower says to use 85-140 gear oil in the bearings instead of grease. Mine leak, so I guess the seals are bad and also they are starting to make some noise, but they are not getting hot. Once they start to heat up in use, probably time to do something.

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Dave Sherburne NY

11-17-2007 15:50:39




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 Re: Woods belly mower experts in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-17-2007 15:32:28  
You should start soon, It will take a while for
the penetrating oil to get those pulleys loose from
the shaft.



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gene bender

11-17-2007 15:46:53




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 Re: Woods belly mower experts in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-17-2007 15:32:28  
Those bearings are pressed fit and you need a good press to remove them. Not expensive but when replacing need to make sure they arent too tight.as the top one has to bee in the rite place as the little sleeve has a pin to hold the shaft in position.



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