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What to set price at for 1206

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farmall 1206

11-08-2007 02:32:17




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Hello, I was wondering if you all could help. This tractor will probably be for sale soon and was wondering what I should expect to get for this 1967 1206. This tractor is totally restored and the new items are: front tires, belts, hoses, seat, steering wheel, clutch, pressure plate, throw-out bearing, batteries, lights, hitch pump, steering pump, pto cover. The radiator was rotted out. The transmission was rebuilt with new bearings and seals. The seat base was rebuilt. The back tires are original and this tractor only has 1767 hrs. Motor was not rebuilt because it is in great shape with very minimal blowby. Smokes a little diesel smoke but burns no oil. Everything works except fuel guage. 1000 lbs of weight on front and inside back tires are loaded with weights on them too. The TA on this tractor is new not rebuilt. It has 2 sets of remotes with 540 and 1000 pto. There is maybe on or two very minor oil leaks on this tractor. Tractor is located in Alabama. This restoration was done about a year ago. Would I be best to put this tractor on ebay?? I am trying to put a photo up but dont know if it will work. Thanks for your input. Here is a link to the photos Link

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big red 1

11-10-2007 08:46:12




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
Nice looking tractor. 7000.00-10000.00 range in eastern Iowa



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Steven f/AZ

11-08-2007 18:44:17




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
Whether it is any help or not, I have this to offer:

An 856 diesel with around 6000 hours brought $17000 with a loader on it a few weeks ago at auction in ND.

Also in ND - Dad just got $9000 out of his 1256 with 8000 hours on it, needing plenty of work, with a Farmhand 235 loader. He was offered $5500 for the tractor alone.

I would say that tractor should be worth at least $10,000 and I'm sure there was near that much put into it, given the list of items repaired and replaced.

As for TA out at 1700 hours - if used improperly they will not last that long! I've heard of people taking the TA out within 300 hours. Then again, some claim to have over 20,000 hours with original TA...

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ny bill

11-08-2007 18:34:52




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
one sold at a farm dispersal for just under $8k 2 years ago. a friend just bought one repainted with a loader that was advertised for $7500. i don't know what he actually paid. yours looks better than either of the 2 i know about.



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High Octane

11-08-2007 18:28:17




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to Fromjb2, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  

old timer said: (quoted from post at 16:51:28 11/08/07) you all remind me of a bunch of chickens --when 1 picks another they all start picking -- all he ask for was a price i didnt see where he was trying to get anyone here to buy it -- the tractor looks good thats all i got to say

Ditto to that.

If its as good as they say, $8500 is a steal. Would NOT be leaving my farm if it was mine!! gave 3000 for a 856 DT407 15 years ago,,, had a ratty cab, bad steering hyd line, and a flat tire. Engine was overhauled 1500 hours before we got it, since then, new clutch, and a new injector pump, and put on a 1466 cab on it, once it was all fixed up mechanically, its a stout workhorse. Shoot, if you walked out in the field to a farmer who is running one of these tractors,,, said hey wanna sell it??? They may fall off the tractor from laughing at ya! Cause they know what they are, what they can do, and what one can bring at most decent farm auctions. Dont seel it short at all. if its a good one, it will go to a good home for what ever you want for it. If ya dont get what you dont want,, dont sell it. JMHO...

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old timer

11-08-2007 15:51:28




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
you all remind me of a bunch of chickens --when 1 picks another they all start picking -- all he ask for was a price i didnt see where he was trying to get anyone here to buy it -- the tractor looks good thats all i got to say



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farmall 1206

11-08-2007 15:43:10




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
Just got off the phone with my mechanic friend who did most of the restoration and he said he has a photo album he has kept of the restoration. Im going to try to get that from him Sunday and scan the pictures and put in my photobucket album. I asked him about the hydraulic pumps and he said nothing was worn out on them he just went through and replaced all the seals and o-rings. The tractor was spit shined today to go to a show in Orville AL. this Saturday. I will not be there but the previous(2nd) owner and the mechanic will be there if anybody wants to go see it. I'm going to get some more pictures of it cleaned up Sunday too. It was pretty dirty in the original pictures.

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MAGNUM

11-08-2007 13:45:35




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
one thing that caught my attention, was that,the mechanic is in to detail and fixed eveerything and its "restored" then how come they didnt fix the fuel gauge?



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farmall 1206

11-08-2007 15:05:56




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to MAGNUM, 11-08-2007 13:45:35  
Don't know. That was my first question too. I do know it will be fixed in the next week or two.



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JDZ

11-08-2007 10:02:23




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
On one hand, I see people bashing all the repairs--needed or not. And on the other hand, I see people bashing the pretty paint. You can't have it both ways.

I say: Nice Looking 1206.



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JDZ

11-08-2007 09:33:59




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
Wow, let's all gang up on the guy. If Farmall 1206 had come on here and showed a photo of the tractor, listed all the repairs, but not told us the hours, would everybody be trashing it so bad? Or if he had listed the hours, but not the repairs? And the comment about 75lb vs 100 lb weights--what does that matter? I can count 13 or 14 weights in the photos in the link he posted. If it's 13, you're right; he's a liar, That's only 975 lbs! Is everybody looking that hard to tear this tractor apart?

I agree that it seems like a lot of work for a tractor with 1700 hours on it. My 806 with 98XX hours needed/needs less work, but he only asked for a price.

I called about a "restored" 1206 with a cab in NW Minnesota. He wanted $7500. "Restored" has different meanings to different people, though. I'd say dhermesc's range is correct.

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Allan In NE

11-08-2007 09:44:10




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to JDZ, 11-08-2007 09:33:59  
We're not "ganging up on 'im", just trying to tell him the honest truth the way it is.

That glassy, shiney paint and the chrome exhaust just SCREAMS "Restored by Dupont".

He'll do alright. Those 1206s are selling like hotcakes. Pretty or not.

Allan



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Cotton Picker

11-08-2007 12:04:26




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to Allan In NE, 11-08-2007 09:44:10  
The chrome exhaust came that way from the factory!
I thought everybody knew that!

I guess not.



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Allan In NE

11-08-2007 09:15:38




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
One things for certain.

It's gonna bring a heck of a lot more than it's worth. That glassy paint and chrome exhaust insures that.

If it only has 1700 actual hours on it, something was waaayyyyy bad wrong with it and the joker just sat.

Give ya one thing: it's pretty. :>)

Allan



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the tractor vet

11-08-2007 08:42:28




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
Well it may show only 1700 hours on THAT TACH . But in all my years of being around and working on I H tractors there ain't no way that tractor has only 1700 hours with the list of repairs and them ain't no 100 lb weights they are the 75's . A Sherman and Williams over haul can cover a lot of sins. And i have learned a long time ago never by a a pint job . Myself i would rather buy one that is covered in dirt and grease and be solid under all that or by one that has knowen problems and then make the repairs .

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farmall 1206

11-08-2007 15:24:17




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to the tractor vet, 11-08-2007 08:42:28  
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I am only 29 years old and was not with this tractor from the beginning so I can not swear that this is the original tach. If you saw this tractor in person and drove it, you would say it is. I'm not going to get in an arguing match whether this is a "Dupont" restoration. I know what I have. There's no way I can convince you by me just saying what's been done to it. To the best of my knowledge, all the "repairs" done to this tractor was because of it sitting and mostly consisted of seals and o-rings and things that dry rot except for the TA and clutch. If you had a tractor split apart, wouldnt you put a clutch in it if you were doing a restoration? I didnt know there was anything written in concrete that a TA couldnt go out on one with only 1700 hrs. Every other tractor I see says "TA not working" so it must be pretty common for them to tear up. I did not personally know the original owner, and he has passed away(I know some of you will be skeptical about this but you will just have to trust me) but my dad knew him and he told me today he was a catfish farmer and said this tractor was only used to turn a paddle wheel. Im sure he used the tractor for other odd jobs but this is what the tractor did the most. As far as the weights, here is a close up of them so you all will have to figure this out. I thought I had a pretty nice tractor in good shape till I posted on this board. I'm thinking about parting it out now. Anybody need a new TA?? Thanks to the ones who posted the kind words. Brad

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Cotton Picker

11-09-2007 07:13:22




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 15:24:17  
Brad,

If I had the money I would buy it from you. Some of those "experts" believe us southerners don't know squat about tractors.

As I said in an earlier post- "Darn nice looking tractor!"

CP in the Mississippi Delta



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farmall 1206

11-09-2007 12:15:59




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to Cotton Picker, 11-09-2007 07:13:22  
Thanks for the kind words cotton picker. I wish I could take credit for the restoration but I cant. I wish I was that talented and had that much patience. Just kind of gets under your skin when someone calls it a Dupont restoration when I know the work that has gone into it.



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dhermesc

11-08-2007 08:08:38




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
Since no one has actually ventured I price I take a shot at it.

If you trust the repairs (warranty on any of this?) I would say $7000 to maybe $10,000 in my area (NE Kansas). The same tractor in green would easily be 40%-50% higher. Its kind of hard to guage because you just don't see many (any?) "nice" 1206s any more. You still see real low houred 1256s & 1456s come up for sale in their work cloths that don't seem to bring all that much. The real demand is for the "8" sized tractors.

If you don't trust the repairs (a good shop will give a minimum hours warranty) I wouldn't even bother. All it takes is one bolt torqued to the wrong spec and you'll spend thousands in repairs for the rear end.

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Goose

11-08-2007 06:09:06




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
Do I understand the TA was replaced? If that's the case, something doesn't smell right.

The average life of a TA on 06 and 56 series tractors with normal use is about 3,000 hours. Note I said normal use, as in plowing, discing, etc. With the light use you describe, why would the TA need to be replaced at 1700 hours?

As for price, I would say the going price for an average 1206 plus a thousand or so extra for it being a sharp looking unit. In the automotive business, I've seen too many people put $3,000 worth of repairs into a $2,000 vehicle and expect to sell it for $6,000.

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IaGary

11-08-2007 03:18:32




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to farmall 1206, 11-08-2007 02:32:17  
Just wondering how the seat base,hydraulic pumps,and transmission bearings, can go bad and only have 1700 hours?

Are you sure on the hours?

It is a sharp looking 1206 though. You did a nice job on it.(:~})

Gary



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dhermesc

11-08-2007 06:02:08




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to IaGary, 11-08-2007 03:18:32  
"Just wondering how the seat base,hydraulic pumps,and transmission bearings, can go bad and only have 1700 hours?

Are you sure on the hours?"

Don't forget the TA having been completely replaced. We've needed less work done on our 1206 with 10,000 hours.

Either the hours are wrong or somebody ripped the crap out of this tractor. They are/were pretty popular in tractor pulls because the it's so easy to "turn up" the power with the turbo and their relatively light weight.

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farmall 1206

11-08-2007 03:52:20




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to IaGary, 11-08-2007 03:18:32  
A friend of mine bought this tractor from the original owner some 10 to 15 yrs ago and I think the tractor was used to run an auger or fish pond aerator or something stationary most of the time. He, and a friend of mine who is a farmall/IH mechanic, are the ones who restored it. The seat base he said he put new rubbers in so I said "rebuilt". I assume they were dry rotted from sitting out in the weather. Should have been more clear. He said they went through the transmission with new bearings and seals when they put the new TA on. As far as the hydraulic pumps, I dont know how they could have gone bad. My friend who is the mechanic is a stickler for details and if something isnt 100%, he fixes it. I cant remember if he told me they were new or rebuilt. As far as the hours go, the front end has never been replaced and is tight as new so that leads me to believe the hours are correct. That and the fact that this guy is an honest man and we know who has owned this tractor since new. The original owners manual is with the tractor too.

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Baelee05

11-08-2007 03:50:55




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to IaGary, 11-08-2007 03:18:32  
I had the same thoughts too Gary. A lot of stuff worn out or replaced for a 1700 hour tractor. Unless the tractor is dualed in the picture it appears to have pressed steel wheels on the rear which isn't right either. Whatever the case it appears to be a beautiful tractor. Would love to have it but quite sure I can't afford it!!



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Cotton Picker

11-08-2007 08:02:08




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to Baelee05, 11-08-2007 03:50:55  
You people up north need to understand something. The climate here in the south is very brutal, humidity is very high all times of the year, 50 to 60 inches a rain a year helps put rust on anything not kept under a shed. The tractor is 40 years old or more, things need to be replaced!
The T/A being replaced after 1700 hours was not uncommon down here.

Give the guy a break and quit nit-picking everything, he just wanted a price, not to be preached to.

BTW, if you look close enough you can see the inside tire, and if you read his discription he says"the INSIDE back tires have rear weights on them".

Darn nice looking tractor!!!

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farmall 1206

11-08-2007 03:58:01




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 Re: What to set price at for 1206 in reply to Baelee05, 11-08-2007 03:50:55  
The tractor does have duals. Im not a farmall guy so Im not sure of the correctness of the wheels. Check out the link in the first post for several more pictures. I dont know what this means but my farmall mechanic friend said this tractor is registered in the national(International??) registery. Not trying to pull anything on anybody, I'm just wondering an estimated asking price assuming this tractor is what it is claimed to be. Thanks, Brad

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