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Doug C.

11-02-2007 12:35:24




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Does a regular automotive engine stand work OK to pull an engine? I'm down to just the block sticking off the bellhousing on my Super C & want to pull it. Anything wrong with this approach - stress on the castings, etc?

Thanks all.




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Nebraska Cowman

11-03-2007 10:49:16




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Doug C., 11-02-2007 12:35:24  
yeah, 2 bolts on top 2 on each side + the dowel pin. Yeah it's gotta come forward to come out but with all the jerking around you've been doing I would sure expect to see a crack showing up somewhere you can get a bar in. I like to use spoon tire irons for prying. Even if the clutch shaft is stuck it ought to start a little. But I have seen tractors that clutch splines are rusted til the only way to get it apart is to break something. Be careful.

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Doug C.

11-02-2007 18:45:02




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Doug C., 11-02-2007 12:35:24  
You guys have a lot of patience with newbies like me. I appreciate ALL your input. I'll remove the block safely & then bolt it from the rear to my engine stand I just bought at Harbor Freight today (I know, I know). Wasn't sure about how they even bolt up.

By the way - couldn't tap the sleeves out. Will make a puller like you showed me.

Thanks again guys



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gene bender

11-02-2007 18:42:14




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Doug C., 11-02-2007 12:35:24  
It will work just fine.



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CNKS

11-02-2007 18:13:57




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Doug C., 11-02-2007 12:35:24  
As the others say, block the rear, remove the engine with an engine hoist, and bolt it to the stand. I did this with a 460 Hi Utility, and that 6 cylinder weighs a lot more than your SC engine. There are many uses for an engine hoist -- well worth the $2-300, never regretted buying mine, and now can't do without it.



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Janicholson

11-02-2007 13:02:57




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Doug C., 11-02-2007 12:35:24  
Super C engines fit well on engine stands. Lift it with a cherry picker, or 4 stout men, (not recommended), and put it on the stand. JimN



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Red Dave

11-02-2007 12:41:50




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Doug C., 11-02-2007 12:35:24  
I'm not sure what you mean. I've used an engine lift (a picker) to take tractor engines off A's & B's with no problems at all. Then I bolt the block to an engine stand.

Do you mean that you want to remove it with the stand? If that is what you mean, I don't think it would work.



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Doug C.

11-02-2007 13:20:17




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Red Dave, 11-02-2007 12:41:50  
I've got rigging equipment I can use to remove it, then bolt it to the stand if necessary. I was thinking I could bolt it to the stand, remove the bellhousing bolts & back it right away? Alignment may be too critical, though.

Also, the adjustable "spider" on the stand doesn't exactly match up like it would on the back of a V-8. Crankshaft somewhat in the way, plus the pins on the spider are too big for the holes in the engine casting. Any ideas?

Thanks

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flashback

11-02-2007 20:33:13




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Doug C., 11-02-2007 13:20:17  
I blocked the aft end of the tractor up to fit my motor stand and just bolted it on and slid it away. easy to put back together also



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Red Dave

11-02-2007 16:17:11




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Doug C., 11-02-2007 13:20:17  
I would not do it that way. I don't know if the bolt holes on the front of the engine would take the weight of the whole block. Besides, it sounds unwieldy. You will also need to be able to move it around somewhat to put it back on.

I reccomend that you remove it with the rigging and then bolt it on the engine stand to work on it.



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Keith-OR

11-02-2007 16:38:15




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Red Dave, 11-02-2007 16:17:11  

Red Dave said: (quoted from post at 16:17:11 11/02/07) I would not do it that way. I don't know if the bolt holes on the front of the engine would take the weight of the whole block. Besides, it sounds unwieldy. You will also need to be able to move it around somewhat to put it back on.
I recomend that you remove it with the rigging and then bolt it on the engine stand to work on it.


Dave why wouldn't bolts on front of SC engine support its own weight , it supports the weight of the complete front of tractor whether it be NFE Tri-cycle or WFE. As it even supports the weight of radiator,all sheet metel hydraulics, torque tube and some of the weight of the trans.

But I do agree engine stand should attached to the bellhousing side of motor, or how is one to remove or put back the timing cover, crank pulley and cam w/gears....hhmmmmm mmmmm. third party image

Keith & Shawn(Special Olympic Champion)

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Red Dave

11-03-2007 08:08:34




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Keith-OR, 11-02-2007 16:38:15  
The mounts for the steering bolster and front end could hold the weight. But it would be so unballanced how would you turn it over on the engine stand to work on it. I got the impression that he wants to bolt it to the same place the front cover bolts to, and I do not think they should have to hold the weight of the block. I think that would be a mistake.



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Keith-OR

11-02-2007 16:31:17




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Red Dave, 11-02-2007 16:17:11  

Red Dave said: (quoted from post at 16:17:11 11/02/07) I would not do it that way. I don't know if the bolt holes on the front of the engine would take the weight of the whole block. Besides, it sounds unwieldy. You will also need to be able to move it around somewhat to put it back on.
I recomend that you remove it with the rigging and then bolt it on the engine stand to work on it.


Dave why wouldn't bolts on front of SC engine support its own weight , it supports the weight of the complete front of tractor whether it be NFE Tri-cycle or WFE. As it even supports the weight of radiator,all sheet metel hydraulics, torque tube and some of the weight of the trans.

But I do agree engine stand should attached to the bellhousing side of motor, or how is one to remove or put back the timing cover, crank pulley and cam w/gears....hhmmmmm mmmmm. third party image

Keith & Shawn(Special Olympic Champion)

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steveormary

11-02-2007 14:28:48




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Doug C., 11-02-2007 13:20:17  
Doug C.

We used a loader to remove an engine from a Farmall 300. (not recomended) Set the motor back in with an engine hoist. The hoist made the job very simple.(recommended) Just my experiance.

steveormary



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the Unforgiven

11-02-2007 14:25:19




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 Re: Motor Stand in reply to Doug C., 11-02-2007 13:20:17  
You remove the engine and then bolt the stand to the flywheel end just like a V-8.



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