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linemanfarmer

10-30-2007 15:21:44




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My new F-20 has I believe two tanks, I was wondering what the two tanks were suppose to hold? And if it is distilite is that close enought to diesel to put a little in there or what do you guys do. Also would someone explain the older fuels to me, I have not much knowledge of the fuels we use to burn.

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Derek




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Bob Kerr

10-31-2007 21:16:01




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 Re: f-20 fuel in reply to linemanfarmer, 10-30-2007 15:21:44  
Hi Derek. I have ran my F-12 on kero and did so just a week ago. It has the hot spot manifold with the lever. You do have to use the shutters or a curtain to get the water hot so it doesn"t dillute the oil as bad. I ran my radiator covered with a greasy rag until the lower water elbow was warm and would "adjust" it from there. About 8 years ago kero was cheaper than gas one summer so I ran kero in my 10-20 and F-12. You do have to watch the oil as it will dillute so I would wait till morning to give the kero a chance to rise to the top and then drin to the middle cock on the pan. Make sure when you go to shut down, you shut off the kero valve and let it almost run out of fuel then turn the gas back on and smell the exhaust so you can tell when the kero is used up in the carb. That will avoid starting problems later. I also made sure my fuel sediment bowl was clean as you can see the gas kero level in the bowl. Kero is on the bottom as it is heavier than gas. I would use almost a full staring tank on the 10-20 to warm up. I would then fill the tank back up with gas incase I killed it out in the field and couldn"t get it started right away for some reason , I would have the gas right there. The F-12 uses about a half starting tank to get warmed up. you will also have to lean out the carb some running kero. It doesn"t make more power, but it does take less fuel per hour to run. If gas prices go as high as they are talking I may go back to kero for a while. It is 2.75 a gal here right now and they got the last shipment a month ago so they still have plenty.

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LenNH

10-31-2007 11:35:02




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 Re: f-20 fuel in reply to linemanfarmer, 10-30-2007 15:21:44  
Early literature for the Farmall, 10-20, etc., talks of these as "kerosene" tractors. Most of the early Nebraska tests were done on kerosene. I don't know the history of distillate, but I do know from looking through the Nebraska tests that distillate tended to be used sometime in the 30s.
The drill with either kerosene or distillate is to start on gas, after making SURE there was no kero or distillate in the carb (a drain was provided). When the engine got warmed up, you turned off the gas and turned on the kerosene or distillate. Most of the original manifolds had a way to switch from a "hot" (kerosene/distillate) manifold to a "cold" manifold (gasoline). Sometimes, this involved turning a baffle around, but more often, from what I have seen, it involved moving a lever (F-20, F-12, H, etc.).
Most of the original manifolds burned through after 20 or more years of service, and it appears that most have been replaced with a "gasoline" manifold, often from aftermarket suppliers. I don't believe a tractor with a gasoline manifold would run at all well on kerosene or distillate. All these tractors had some way to keep the engine really hot. In the 20s, this often involved a curtain that could be pulled up in front of the radiator. In the 30s, a number of tractors were given a shutter, adjustable by a crank near the driver. I tried kerosene just ONCE on my father's 10-20, and I vowed never to do it again. When you stop for any length of time, the engine sputters and spits until it gets hot enough to vaporize the fuel again. Another disadvantage of these fuels is that they can become liquid when the cylinders cool, and the liquid runs down the side of the cylinder walls and dilutes the oil. This is why these tractors always had the drain spigots on the side of the crankcase. The IHC instructions for the 10-20 call for draining to the bottom petcock after every 10 hours of work, and refilling to the top petcock.

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Ron in Nebr

10-30-2007 16:05:39




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 Re: f-20 fuel in reply to linemanfarmer, 10-30-2007 15:21:44  
Originally the smaller tank held gasoline to use for starting and warming up the engine, then it was switched to distillate which was in the bigger tank.

Like Cowman said, just fill the big tank with gas and run it that way.



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Nebraska Cowman

10-30-2007 15:34:18




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 Re: f-20 fuel in reply to linemanfarmer, 10-30-2007 15:21:44  
Nahh, just run it on gasoline. If you want to play you can burn kerosene once the tractor is warmed up. Diesel is too heavy but some guys have mixed gas and diesel to get a burnable fuel. Distilate is a product that is no longer available because of changes in the refining process.



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