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Jason Novotny

10-14-2007 11:59:02




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I just bought a 1953 Super H. Serial # on the frame of SH 7456 J. I was reading another post and I looked at all the numbers on the frame and are all around 4-16-Y. I was looking on the engine block and found FBH 228011 x1 and 7-16-P. Is the correct engine for this tractor or did someone before me switch blocks? Any help you can give would be great!

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Jason Novotny

10-15-2007 08:02:06




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 Re: Farmall Super H in reply to Jason Novotny, 10-14-2007 11:59:02  
I was planning on pulling with it and thought I would have an advantage in the antique stock class with the 164 engine over those with an 152 engine. I will just have to pull it and see what happens. Thanks for all your help so far.



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pat in wis

10-15-2007 17:20:21




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 Re: Farmall Super H in reply to Jason Novotny, 10-15-2007 08:02:06  
proper placement of the weight will mean alot more on the track than a few extra cubes. with the larger "M" type carb you may notice a bit of an advantage. what state do you live in? some of the pulls around here limit the antique classes to 1950 or older { at least they used to when I showed up with a super H }
GOOD LUCK PULLING



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Jason Novotny

10-16-2007 07:07:19




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 Re: Farmall Super H in reply to pat in wis, 10-15-2007 17:20:21  
Pat

Tell me more about weight and balance on a Super H. Any other tips would be greatly appreciated. In antique here you can pull 1958 or earlier



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pat in wis

10-17-2007 04:19:40




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 Re: Farmall Super H in reply to Jason Novotny, 10-16-2007 07:07:19  
best results I"ve had were getting into the 4000 weight class, running about 8 psi tire pressure with an old 45* angle tire tread over 1/2 wore out. draw bar height to the max 19 1/2" with extension plate off the back. Any weight that you can move from the front to the back I did. Still got whooped by a JD "A". Still had fun though ...



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pat in wis

10-14-2007 18:38:27




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 Re: Farmall Super H in reply to Jason Novotny, 10-14-2007 11:59:02  
The motor serial number would have been around 8650 or so. Just because it has had a motor change doesn"t mean its not a good tractor unless you"re looking at a show quality restoration. Would still be a very usable and handy tractor to have. Just my thoughts,
Pat in Wis



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Jason Novotny

10-14-2007 13:14:45




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 Re: Farmall Super H in reply to Jason Novotny, 10-14-2007 11:59:02  
That is a huge bummer, I thought I was buying a true Super H. I was kinda of wondering what kind of other parts I have on it. I have # 6513 D on the carb. Is that for a H or Super H? Is there any way to tell if there are dome top pistons in the tractor without pulling the head?? Where will I find the 152 or 164 stamp at?



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Nat 2

10-15-2007 09:23:12




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 Re: Farmall Super H in reply to Jason Novotny, 10-14-2007 13:14:45  
The block may be bored out to Super H specs. No way to tell unless you pull the head and measure.

Hopefully they didn't just swap whole engines, and transferred the timing gears and front cover from the original Super H engine.
Unless you have a lighted borescope to look down into the spark plug holes, you'll have to pull the head to see what kind of pistons it has, too.



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CNKS

10-14-2007 17:42:25




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 Re: Farmall Super H in reply to Jason Novotny, 10-14-2007 13:14:45  
IH did not put the displacement notation on the blocks until the Super series, except for possibly some replacement blocks after the Super series arrived. From the other posts you have a C152, thus there will be no notation unless it is a later replacement block. The number, if any, is cast in at the left rear of the block. You might be able to shine a light in the spark plug holes and see the pistons.

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FarmallDude

10-14-2007 14:11:28




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 Re: Farmall Super H in reply to Jason Novotny, 10-14-2007 13:14:45  
Jason: Just so you know.... That Carb #6513 D is the same # thats on my friends 1940 M.



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Janicholson

10-14-2007 12:12:29




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 Re: Farmall Super H in reply to Jason Novotny, 10-14-2007 11:59:02  
The block may be from a 46 H not your SH.

The only grief is if the SH you have is equipped with a live Hydro pump, and the gears are not the later updated pump gears. If it is a stage 1 SH (I think it is) the battery will be under the fuel tank, and it will have a belly pump (LiftAll) hydraulic. If so it won't make much difference. A bit of power (unless it has SH pistons, cam. and Carb.

I hope this helps, JimN

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