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Timing an A

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Soundman

10-13-2007 17:49:30




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I disassembled my A to strip and paint it. After reassembling, I can not get it back in time. I bought a manuel. It said to line up the mark of D14 with the casting mark on the clutch housing. I see the mark on the clutch housing but can not find the mark on the flywheel. I can see a hole at the same time I hear the mag click. Is the hole and the mark one in the same?




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Soundman

10-14-2007 19:20:21




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 Re: Timing an A in reply to Soundman, 10-13-2007 17:49:30  
Thanks for the heads up T_Bone
I will finish the fine tuning in a couple of days as tommorrow I start to move my entire welding class shop from one campus to another about 25 miles away. District built a new building for the vocational classes. Should be a lot better for all concerned as soon as we finish the move.



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Soundman

10-14-2007 14:06:26




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 Re: Timing an A in reply to Soundman, 10-13-2007 17:49:30  
Thanks all. My baby is alive again. Got the timing aligned and carb. set. Sure sounds good.



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T_Bone

10-14-2007 11:38:55




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 Re: Timing an A in reply to Soundman, 10-13-2007 17:49:30  
Hi Soundman,

After you mechanical time the engine then you need to fine tune the timing.

Turn the engine at about 1500rpm or where the engine is running on the main jet.

Advance the timing until the engine starts to miss.

Retard the timing until the engine stops missing then retard the rpm by additional 50rpm. Lock the distributor down at this point. Return the engine to idle rpm.

The engine is now in time accounting for worn parts and altitude. This timing method works for any gasser engine.

T_Bone

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El Toro

10-13-2007 18:49:43




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 Re: Timing an A in reply to Soundman, 10-13-2007 17:49:30  
You need to remove No1 sparkplug near the radiator
and bring No1 piston to TDC on the compression stroke while someone cranks the engine until you feel compression against you thumb. Then drop a large handle screwdriver in the plug hole and watch the screwdriver rise while someone slowly cranks the engine. When the screwdriver quits rising your No1 piston should be at TDC. Both valves on that cylinder should be closed too.

Remove the cap and see where the rotor is pointing
if it isn't at the No1 plug tower you need to pull the mag or distributor and rotate the rotor
to the No1 plug tower and reinstall. Your rotor rotates CW and your plug wires should be in this firing order. Hal

2-1
4-3 Then see if tractor will start.

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Soundman

10-13-2007 19:24:07




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 Re: Timing an A in reply to El Toro, 10-13-2007 18:49:43  
Thanks, should have time tomorrow to give it a try. Biggest problem is working solo, but think that I can turn and feel at the same time.



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Hugh MacKay

10-14-2007 04:08:33




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 Re: Timing an A in reply to Soundman, 10-13-2007 19:24:07  
Soundman: I've had 6 of these tractors over the past 50 years. Never found a timing mark yet, mainly because I never looked. Go with Hal's suggestion, you'll have it up and running fast enough, the guy underneath looking for the timing mark will have to scramble to get out of the way as you go out the shop door.

You can fine tune the timing advance by ear, may not get it right the first time, but take a wrench with as you work the tractor. You'll soon get an ear for the right setting by sound. IH tractors do a good job of talking to you, and you afterall are a SOUNDMAN.

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ScottyHOMEy

10-13-2007 22:23:12




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 Re: Timing an A in reply to Soundman, 10-13-2007 19:24:07  
You can find it like Hal describes pretty well, and should be fine.

That mark is just a very fine line that runs from front to back of the flyweel, and is marker TC (or is it DC?) 1-4. It's usually obscured by rust and dirt, but you could give a look for it while you have it lined up using Hal's method.

Both of mine I had the engines out for a rebuild anyway. As part of putting them back together, I made three marks on my engine. One was a spot of paint on the flywheel mark. The other two were on the crank pulley and the timing case cover, so that they are lined up when you're at TDC. Makes it a lot easier next time, working from the top.

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flashback

10-13-2007 20:24:11




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 Re: Timing an A in reply to Soundman, 10-13-2007 19:24:07  
I dont remember for sure but I think the mark on the f;lywheel is a couple of teeth with a slope on them. However, if you follow the above instructions you cant miss.



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