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I need a engine for a 484

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michael price

10-12-2007 16:47:58




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I need a new engine for a IH 484, it has a little 3cyl diesel, a D-179 engine. One of the connecting rods is tore up pretty bad and the crank is scratched up. I think it had been run with no oil in it. After I got it it did run but knocked. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement engine at? Or should I rebuild it? I think I will need a new crank and then with the price of a rebuild kit its getting expensive.

All State has a used take out engine with a one year warrenty but Im not sure about shipping. Im going to email them and hpefully find out.

Does anyone else know where I can get a new engine at? Also how much do you think it will cost, Im starting to save up some $ for it.

I live in south west michigan.

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Fromjb2

10-12-2007 20:31:59




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 Re: I need a engine for a 484 in reply to michael price, 10-12-2007 16:47:58  
Michael, you can check this salvage yard:
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Just over the border in south western Ontario,

JimB



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michael price

10-12-2007 20:11:03




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 Re: I need a engine for a 484 in reply to michael price, 10-12-2007 16:47:58  
I seen a rebuild kit and it said it came with high compression pistons, I guess thats why because of the starting. The crank might be able to be ground down but I think its to far gone.



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K.B.-826

10-12-2007 18:49:13




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 Re: I need a engine for a 484 in reply to michael price, 10-12-2007 16:47:58  
Your D-179 was built at IH's factory in Neuss, Germany. That basic design was used in many U.S. built IH tractors as well as British built models like your 484. The two most common versions here in the U.S. are the 3.875" bore x 4.375" stroke version, which was avalible as a 155 ci 3-cylinder, 206 ci 4 cylinder, or a 310 ci 6 cylinder, and the 3.875"x5.062", which was avalible as a 179 ci 3 cylinder, 239 ci 4 cylinder, or a 358 ci 6 cylinder. Parts are readily avalible from salvage yards and Case-IH dealers. Your crank will need to come from another 179, but the rod can come from any of the 5.062" stroke engines, as long as it is stamped with the same part number as yours. I would definetly go rebuild on this one. You don't know what you're getting with a take-out. These engines had wet sleeves, the sealing rings rot out with age and allow coolant to dump into the oil pan. The early versions had lower compression pistons and start hard, you wouldn't be happy if you ended up with one of those. Go to your nearest Case-IH dealer and ask the SERVICE MANAGER (NOT the parts guy, unless he's been around long enough to know his stuff, but I guess the same could be said for some service managers) what pistons you should use for best starting. Make sure the valves and seats don't get ground to the point where they set into the head deeper than spec, or you'll have hard starting issues, if in doubt replace the valves. A brand new engine will probably be out of the question as they went out of production about 10-12 years ago.

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K.B.-826

10-12-2007 19:00:01




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 Re: I need a engine for a 484 in reply to K.B.-826, 10-12-2007 18:49:13  
Check out www dot wengers dot com. They've got used rods for $66 and new ones for $140 somthing. Looks like their reconditioned D-179 crankshafts sell for $700, but it says they're out of stock. Looks like you get the bearings as well. I just bought a couple parts for my 544 from these guys, the shipping was fast and I think they've got about the best website out of all of the salvage yards that are online.

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