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350 turns over very slow

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charles hoffman

10-10-2007 21:28:49




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my 350 turns over so slow it wont start. I replaced the battery and still itturns slow. any other Ideas? whatwould make it turn so slow? should I rebuild the starter?? help me please I have work to do




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Janicholson

10-11-2007 09:22:42




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 Re: 350 turns over very slow in reply to charles hoffman III, 10-10-2007 21:28:49  
A starter draw amp gauge from an auto parts store will allow a cheap look at starter draw. If it is 6v, it should be under 450 amps, if 12v less than 300-350. The meter just rests against one of the fat cables to make it work. 15$ or less. All the info below is the next step if it draws too much.
Starter bearings get worn allowing the armature to drag on the field poles. they will peg the needle on the gauge when that happens. JimN

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John T

10-11-2007 06:33:26




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 Re: 350 turns over very slow in reply to charles hoffman III, 10-10-2007 21:28:49  
BEFORE you suspect the starter, Id FIRST remove, clean n wire brush, then reattach each n every battery n starter n switch/solenoid n frame ground conenction n see what happens. If the frame ground is to any thin or rusty wimpy sheet metal, try it direct to a heavy frame member. I like 00 cables on 6 volt and 1 or 0 on 12 volt applications, wimpy 4 gauge drop too much voltage slowing the starter. You might wanna remove n clean n wire brush where the starter mates to the tractor in case its getting a poor ground.

If youre SURE the battery is good (try a known good substitute or have it load tested or jump it) and alllll llll cables n connections n grounds are good but she still cranks slowwwww ww, if you can get to all the starter/switch/solenoid connections using good tight heavy jumper cables without arcing or shortign out you may wanna by pass jump around the switch or solenoid n see how she cranks then to see if the switch or solenoid has a problem IE jump direct from the hot ungrounded battery post to the starter input (switch/solenoids output) n see if she cranks betetr indicating a bad switch/solenoid.

FINALLY if alllll lll cables n connections n grounds and battery n switch/solenoid isnt the problem, then I suspect the starter, ASSUMING the engine isnt bad or binding????? See how well she cranks with the spark plugs removed n no compression ???? Engines not over tight is it???

I ask all this cuz its often just a simple problem like a cable or conenction or ground or battery or switch/solenoid instead of a starter.

John T

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Hugh MacKay

10-11-2007 02:16:25




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 Re: 350 turns over very slow in reply to charles hoffman III, 10-10-2007 21:28:49  
Charles: Is the tractor 6 or 12 volt? How large are the battery cables? The reason I ask, it sounds like 6 volt with too small cables, or bad connections. With 6 volt it should be minimum 01 guage cables, and 00 guage would be better. I even use those big cables on 12 volt systems, along with quality solder on ends. I find the best place to get these are shops doing heavy truck work.

A good set of cables for a tractor will cost $25., but will save big bucks on batteries and starters. I quite regularly get 5 to 7 years out of a battery, and last year I replaced a 6 volt after 13 years service in Canadian winters.

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Novice farmer

10-10-2007 22:19:36




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 Re: 350 turns over very slow in reply to charles hoffman III, 10-10-2007 21:28:49  
Had a similar problem with my old H last week. New battery and all serviced but it turned over verrrry slowly. Finally got it started, but couldn"t put it into any gear. Turned out the clutch was frozen and was forcing the entire transmission to turn with the starter. On a friend"s advice, I put it in the highest (5th) gear, pushed in the clutch (wired it down, actually) and then rocked the rear wheels back and forth until it rolled just a little bit. Problem solved and it sure starts easier.

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Old Timer in Ohio

10-10-2007 21:42:18




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 Re: 350 turns over very slow in reply to charles hoffman III, 10-10-2007 21:28:49  
Hey there Charles;
It sounds (to me),like it wouldn't
hurt to rebuild your starter,sure can't hurt it. Bob
God Bless



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georgeky

10-10-2007 21:33:28




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 Re: 350 turns over very slow in reply to charles hoffman III, 10-10-2007 21:28:49  
If your timing is off it will cause to turn slow. Try moving the distributor as you crank and see if it improves.



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