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Keith-OR

10-04-2007 19:43:13




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Anyone know where we can get the correct steering arm for Shawn's SC wide front end. I finally installed new WFE on his SC, had to make new tie-rods. Just need proper steering arm to complete installation. Thanks

Keith & Shawn

Here is picture of steering arm that came with the wide front we bought.
Definently not the right one..

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Keith-OR

10-05-2007 19:51:13




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 Re: SC WFE steering arm.. in reply to Keith-OR, 10-04-2007 19:43:13  

DCW said: ( Keith,that steering arm you have is much better than the original and much sturdier,if it were me,and its working fine,I'd leave it on there.

My Super C has 2 of these,one on it and one that came with it and their both crap.


DCW, if we were using it to work other than parades and shows I probably would keep this steering arm on Shawn's SC.

Curious, by any chance you interested in letting go of your extra one??Thanks

If so, email me it is open

Keith & Shawn (Special Olympic Champion)

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DCW

10-05-2007 18:22:56




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 Re: SC WFE steering arm.. in reply to Keith-OR, 10-04-2007 19:43:13  
Keith,that steering arm you have is much better than the original and much sturdier,if it were me,and its working fine,I'd leave it on there.

My Super C has 2 of these,one on it and one that came with it and their both crap.



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Keith-OR

10-05-2007 08:10:41




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 Re: SC WFE steering arm.. in reply to Keith-OR, 10-04-2007 19:43:13  
Hugh and Nat, thanks for the input on steering arm...Hugh I have no clue what model C this front end came off of. I purchased it to put on Shawn's SC for parades and show (Not a working tractor). It will be used to pull converted hay trailer in parades hauling Special Olympic kids.

I think the reason the arm was changed was ABUSE as I had to fix and repair various parts and pieces on front end. Eventually I will need to replace one or both axels. I have a set from a SA and tjhe only major difference is spindle is 1 inch shorter in height, which I dn't think will make much difference for our purpose. Thanks again
This is what we started out with NF.

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Hugh MacKay

10-05-2007 10:00:09




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 Re: SC WFE steering arm.. in reply to Keith-OR, 10-05-2007 08:10:41  
Keith: If your out shopping for parts, you might just run across the complete setup designed for automotive type tyrod ends. You would need center steering control arm, tyrods and the two individual spindle arms. That tyrod set up will fit the older front ends. It"s been my experience the automotive type wear better and wheels stay in alignment much better. All my tractors have these and are original and still tight as new.

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Keith-OR

10-05-2007 12:32:56




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 Re: SC WFE steering arm.. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-05-2007 10:00:09  

Hugh MacKay said: (quoted from post at 10:00:09 10/05/07) Keith: If your out shopping for parts, you might just run across the complete setup designed for automotive type tyrod ends.


Hugh I hear what you are saying, I think I have already located the later version of tie-rods and steering arm. But will see if I can either find the one that goes along with this setup, OR get good picture and dimentions of the steering arm and make one that looks correct for what we have. Also like you suggested make it longer for smaller turning radious. Thanks

Gotta go Shawn has S.O. Bowling at 1 PM

Keith & Shawn (Special Olympic Champion)

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Nat 2

10-05-2007 05:32:20




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 Re: SC WFE steering arm.. in reply to Keith-OR, 10-04-2007 19:43:13  
Definitely not original, BETTER!

The original steering arm is very thin, and cast, which means it's brittle and easily broken. On the surface at least, this one looks much stronger.

You'll have to look for an OEM steering arm at salvage yards. The ones you'll find are likely already broken and/or badly worn.



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Hugh Mackay

10-05-2007 03:12:37




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 Re: SC WFE steering arm.. in reply to Keith-OR, 10-04-2007 19:43:13  
Keith: Your right, definitely not the right steering control arm, but there may be good reason for it. Pre 1965 Farmall wide fronts have been noted for a very large turning radius. A lot of folks corrected this by making a longer steering control arm. It makes them turn much shorter even with 1" added to the length. Of course it also make them bit harder to steer. This change worked well on C, SC, 200 and 230 as they are relatively easy to steer. I looked at doing this with my 560, could see that steering control arm was the main difference between it and 656. An IH technician advised me not to do it as 560 power steering would not stand the extra load. He said the C, SC, etc. were the only tractors he'd recomend doing this. He further stated this got started by comparing the front tire angle of SA and SC on shop floor. Some dealer somewhere across North America started doing these and it spread through the dealer network.

Whether this control arm was done for that reason or someone damaged the original beyond repair is hard to tell without seeing this one and an original side by side. If you find you have one that has been lengthened, and you want the tractor original for show, etc. Very likely you can find someone using one of these tractors as a working tractor and he'd be willing to trade even shift.

Another item I notice and I'm not sure if C and SC were same as SA. There were certain changes made to SA at serial number 310100, same time as SC was introduced. At that time one of the items changed on SA was from the ball and socket type tyrod ends you have to modern day automotive type tyrod ends. I suspect that same change occured at beginning of SC production. The H and M also got automotive type tyrod ends very close to that time. For that reason I suspect your wide front is C technology. Your not alone, when the change occured there were thousands of new wide fronts around IH dealers that got put on Supers. In the late 40s IH and it's dealers never believed narrow front would become as popular as it did. It was cheaper to ship tractors by rail with narrow front. I've seen rail car loads of narrow front Farmalls at Truro NS, with wide fronts straped down on deck. They firmly believed non row crop farmers would not buy narrow front tractors. Livestock farmers loved them on the hay baler. I remember the first time my dad baled hay with 560 wide front, he said, "Give me back my old narrow front 300, it doesn't take a locomotive to pull a baler and wagon." Here was a man that 15 years earlier when he bought an H, bought both narrow and wide front.

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