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Bill Pingel

10-02-2007 19:27:43




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I have a 1946 farmall H with starting problem. It turns over super slow, like once every second cold and not at all hot. It"s a 6v system, new battery, changed cables to #2 gage, and rebuilt starter, no luck.I was wondering if someone changed the starter to 12v. Can"t find any marking on starter 12v or 6v. Would a 6v battery turn over a 12v starter? Help Thank You Bill




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Pete in Holland, MI

10-03-2007 13:42:24




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 Re: starting problem in reply to Bill Pingel, 10-02-2007 19:27:43  
Did you replace all 3 cables? Clean he connections to the engine? Have seen some cables clamped to a battery box or piece of tin. The junction here may be o.k., but where the tin joins the engine may be the problem. Suggest your ground strap go right to a bolt that screws into the engine block or transmission housing. Might take a wire directly from the battery to the motor starter to see if the starter switch itself is at fault.

Was told several years back that the electrical system on a tractor should be completely replaced every 15-20 years. That'll prevent a lot of little problems in the up and coming years.

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El Toro

10-03-2007 04:30:32




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 Re: starting problem in reply to Bill Pingel, 10-02-2007 19:27:43  
You need 00 cables as Old suggested and don't have them any longer that's needed. If you still have a problem have your starter checked. Hal



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old

10-02-2007 21:09:48




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 Re: starting problem in reply to Bill Pingel, 10-02-2007 19:27:43  
#2 cables are made for cars with 12 volt systems. You need 0 or 00 cables or you will never have much luck with it. 6 volt system have a lot of amps but low volts so they need BIG cable to get the power to the starter or you can forgoet about it



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John T

10-02-2007 19:52:03




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 Re: starting problem in reply to Bill Pingel, 10-02-2007 19:27:43  
A 6 volt battery dont turn a 12 volt starter very well but why would it have been rebuilt as a 12 on a 6 volt tractor UNLESS the shop screwed up??? You might consider unhooking everything EXCEPT the starter n using a 12 volt battery direct to it n see how she cranks then??? Trouble is a "weak" 6 volt starter can crank pretty decent at 12 volts so Im not sure what if anything the test may tell ya. You might also try to jump by pass (good heavy jumper cables) around any starter switch or solenoid in case its bad n see if she cranks better then??? This all assumes you have alllll good clean tight battery n starter n ground n switch/solenoid connections ??? If not cure that first

John T

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Bill Pingel

10-02-2007 20:05:58




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 Re: starting problem in reply to John T, 10-02-2007 19:52:03  
John You say a 6v battery don't turn a 12 starter VERY WELL, thats the problem. It turn over very slow. I pulled the starter out of the tractor so the shop wouldn't know what system it came out of. Bill



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Janicholson

10-02-2007 19:42:56




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 Re: starting problem in reply to Bill Pingel, 10-02-2007 19:27:43  
The starter could be dragging (I do not know what was rebuilt on yours) Go to a auto store NAPA or the like, and buy a starter draw meter that reads to 600 amps. This device is cheap and is just held against the cable to be used. If your tractor draws more than 375 to 400 amps, it needs the starter replaced, or checked by a shop that can check armature grounds and internal shorts. A starter that has been dragging will often have shorted windings from metal deflection on the armature. If the tractor engine runs well and is not tight from being very new, or from a broken ring or other disaster, the starter would be my focus. JimN

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