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Cleaning the water jacket area

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Mike CA

09-10-2007 07:10:14




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Since I've got the cover off I want to make use of the open space time. The cover itself is a bit rusted, as is the inside water jacket area. Can I just flush this area out with water, or is there a better method?

Once I put it back together I will run the 50/50 water/vinegar and then a full flushing rinse followed by proper anti-freeze. But I want to do all I can for it while this cover is off. Honestly, after breaking two bolts to get it off, I don't ever want to take it off again! third party image

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Janicholson

09-10-2007 12:05:01




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 Re: Cleaning the water jacket area in reply to Mike CA, 09-10-2007 07:10:14  
To choose a flush agent, drop a piece of the scale into vinegar, or comercial flush, or "soda" and see which breaks it down best!
JimN



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Mike CA

09-10-2007 16:36:05




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 Re: Cleaning the water jacket area in reply to Janicholson, 09-10-2007 12:05:01  

Janicholson said: (quoted from post at 12:05:01 09/10/07) To choose a flush agent, drop a piece of the scale into vinegar, or comercial flush, or "soda" and see which breaks it down best!

JimN


Good tip! Like science class! third party image

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glennster

09-10-2007 08:01:45




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 Re: Cleaning the water jacket area in reply to Mike CA, 09-10-2007 07:10:14  
mike, while the cover is off, you can dig around in there with a coat hanger and use a vaccuum cleaner to suck out as much rust as you can. also blow some compressed air in there too, wear saftey glasses. here is the directions for using washing soda to clean a cooling system. works pretty good. you can also use a commercial coolant system flush from your local auto parts store. heres the directions
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Mike CA

09-10-2007 07:30:01




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 Re: Cleaning the water jacket area in reply to Mike CA, 09-10-2007 07:10:14  
The baffles are there, and look to be solid. They are rusty, but I think I can clean them with a wire brush or somethign else if there are any recommendations.



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jal-SD

09-10-2007 07:29:43




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 Re: Cleaning the water jacket area in reply to Mike CA, 09-10-2007 07:10:14  
Flush it with lots of water. Put the side plate back on w/new gasket, then flush again, as planned. I've had better luck using washing soda to clean the inside of an engine than with vinegar. Have the wife get a box of "Arm & Hammer" washing soda at her favorite discount store, put a cup or two in the radiator with the water-mix it up in a bucket before you dump it in the radiator, run your H until she gets up to operating temp, drain & wait overnight or until she's cold to the touch & do it again-2 or 3 times at least-you'll be able to tell when it's getting clean. You might also want to wire an old magnet from a junked speaker on the top of the radiator-position it so you can get it out-while you are doing the flushing. You'll be suprised what it will collect. (My $0.02 worth. jal-SD)

PS-added benefit of the washing soda-your wife can then use the rest of it to wash your greasy clothes, she'll like the results.

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RustyFarmall

09-10-2007 07:26:11




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 Re: Cleaning the water jacket area in reply to Mike CA, 09-10-2007 07:10:14  
Mike, how badly rusted is that water header cover? Are the two baffles still there, or are they totally rusted away? You can probably get by with the baffles missing but the engine will get hot quicker if you actually make the tractor work. You definately want to remove as much of that rust from the cover as possible so as to uncover any small pin-holes or other potential leaks.

The inside of the engine does not look too bad. Not much point in worrying about that because the only rust you will be able to remove is what you see, and that is only a very small part of what is actually in there. The ONLY way to get rid of all that rust would be to strip the engine completely, remove it from the tractor, and take the block somewhere and have it chemically cleaned.

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Andy Martin

09-10-2007 07:40:42




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 Re: Cleaning the water jacket area in reply to RustyFarmall, 09-10-2007 07:26:11  
Mike:

You need to key on the words "the inside of the engine does not look too bad".

Also, when you go to take this cover off again, it will not have been on for twenty years, and will come right off with no twisted bolts.

It would be a good idea to get some anti-sieze compound, such as never-sieze, to lubricate your bolts with before reassembling. Bolts should always be lubricated. When you assemble dry threads you run the risk of the dry threads resisting, making you think the bolt is tight, when it is not. Well lubricated threads always make up the best and are less likely to gall and pull a thread upon assembly. For instance, I always squirt oil on lug nut threads before putting a wheel back on, whether it is a tractor, truck, or car. Not only do they come off easier later, they are more prone to stay tight. This is counterintuitive to some people, but it is very true.

The anti-sieze compounds are good to keep water out of threads which are exposed on the water jacket, like the bolts holding the thermostat, and are good for high temperature like the manifold nuts. It even helps on the muffler clamp.

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RustyFarmall

09-10-2007 08:48:04




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 Re: Cleaning the water jacket area in reply to Andy Martin, 09-10-2007 07:40:42  
I agree, every bolt or nut that I put back in gets a drop or two of motor oil on the threads.



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