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Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada

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Brian Schmidt

08-28-2007 19:24:19




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Does anyone here have and experience/tips on buying a Canada tractor and hauling it back into the US? I am looking for what to watch out for and be prepared for at the border both going in and coming out with the trailer and tractor. Will I have to pay some kind of duty or fee at the border?

Thanks!!




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garyh

08-29-2007 14:58:33




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 Re: Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada in reply to Brian Schmidt, 08-28-2007 19:24:19  
As others have pointed out have your paperwork in order , I am suprised no one mentioned, make sure any tractor , or your trailer is antiseptic !!! NO DIRT, NO MANURE!!!!This will cause you more grief than trying to bring in a baggie of " green leafy substance" !! Ipersonally make sure I hit a car wash just to be certain that customs can't find any dirt. I know a fella that was turned back twice and he had to pay a toll on the bridge at Port Huron every time he crossed , the first time to wahs the tractor and the second time to wash his trailer. good luck gh

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Bob M

08-29-2007 07:05:19




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 Re: Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada in reply to JohnG(TX), 08-28-2007 19:24:19  

Hugh MacKay said: (quoted from post at 06:11:26 08/29/07) ....Best policy is to have clear cut answers for any questions, never hesitate.


Amen to that Hugh! I too cross back and forth to Canada fairly regularly – your advice is right on.

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I’ve never brought a tractor across the border so I cannot comment on that process. However a few other tips based on my border crossing experiences since 9/11:

- Have your paperwork (especially photo ID) for yourself and all passengers ready to hand over BEFORE entering inspection.
- Have clear, concise answers for any questions the inspector(s) might ask.
- Be prepared for random, odd-ball questions. A few I’ve been asked recently:
“Who is the registered owner of this vehicle?” (Bear in mind this info is displayed on the inspector’s terminal BEFORE you are signaled into the booth…)

“Will your trailer be returning to the US with you?”
“Do you have pepper spray onboard?”

“What is your relationship to your passenger?” (In this case my 24 year old daughter)

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Also.....if you a driving a diesel-powered vehicle that's noisy at idle, often the first thing the inspector will tell you is to shut it down so he/she can hear answers to their questions. Good practice then is to kill the engine as you roll to a stop and before the inspector asks.

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Hugh MacKay

08-29-2007 17:54:47




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 Re: Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada in reply to Bob M, 08-29-2007 07:05:19  
Bob: Your comment about diesel is important, always shut it down in the booth. Some customs officers don't mind but most do. I got in a bit of hot water one night at US Customs, usually I'd get a chance well back in the line up to stop, get out and shut down refer. This night no one was ahead of me, thus I got out at stop sign and shut the refer down. When I pulled into the booth, he asked what I was doing out of the truck. I advised him what I did. He got quite out of sorts about it, told me he didn't need the refer off to hear. I said, "sir this not about your hearing what I have to say, this is about me hearing what you have to say." He didn't want to let it drop, thus I further advised him, since I was still in Canadian jurisdiction the other side of the stop sign it was very little of his business what I was doing.

I broke down one night in a line up about 100' from that stop sign, air valves under dash blew up and within 30 seconds my maxies were on. It was pouring rain, I made a dash to US Customs, told them my plight, then phoned my employer at a pay phone. Cell wouldn't work that close to customs. When I came back through he advised me they had phoned Michigan State Police. 3 hours later I was still sitting in cab, still raining like hell. My employer came, got hold of bridge management at toll booth, they found me. The bridge manager told me I should have went to bridge toll booth, they would have had a tow truck in 20 min., which did happen then. He further advised me, neither US or Canadian Customs can get this straight. The bridge manager advised me Michigan State Police would have dismissed that call as a prank, as they have no jurisdiction on the US bound bridge. It's OPP jurisdiction right down to stop sign at US Customs, and just the reverse on the Canadian bound bridge. In fact the Bridge manager told me neither police force bother with either bridge unless it is a criminal matter. Bridge management handle all breakdowns and traffic violations, and they can call on the police when they deem necessary. Custom Officers can also call on police for criminal matters, but not traffic flow.

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Hugh MacKay

08-29-2007 03:11:26




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 Re: Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada in reply to Brian Schmidt, 08-28-2007 19:24:19  
Brian: Consult US Customs before you leave home, find out the exact rules. It is changing almost monthly since 9-11. They can send you paper work that will save time. This paper work is designed to be faxed to US Customs when you are loaded to leave Canada. This tells them you are coming, what you have on and the details and where you will be crossing.

Not saying this is perfect, but it is definitely the best way. 98% of the time they will look at your copy to see if it matches what you faxed and your on your way. The other 2%, if you look suspicious, talk in riddles, they are looking for someone, maybe even just a random spot check. You may be asked to go to xray and have load xrayed. they may want to inspect your purchase. There is no duty on farm equipment, either direction. The passport is still up in the air for land crossings.

My personal experienced having crossed twice weekly for 3 years. The most likely time you will encounter delays is if customs have been alerted by police to be on the lookout for a particular vehicle or individual. In that case strangers get the closest scrutiny. Best policy is to have clear cut answers for any questions, never hesitate.

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Wardner

08-28-2007 23:03:48




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 Re: Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada in reply to Brian Schmidt, 08-28-2007 19:24:19  
On three different trips about ten years ago, I bought farm equipment at Bryan's Auction in Guelph, ON. I purchased a 650D, 32 assorted wheel weights, and a dyno. I crossed the border at Niagra Falls twice and once at the interstate 10 miles downstream.

I was pulled over for the wheel weights but allowed to continue on my way after 20 minutes. No explanation was given. The other two crossings were routine after showing the booth attendant my driver's license.

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Wardner

08-28-2007 23:09:05




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 Re: Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada in reply to Wardner, 08-28-2007 23:03:48  
I should add that there is/was something about Kubotas that the US Customs Service doesn't like. If that is what you are buying, you need to do some research. This may apply to all Japanese ag equipment.



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dave westlund

08-28-2007 20:26:09




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 Re: Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada in reply to Brian Schmidt, 08-28-2007 19:24:19  
I went to Winnipeg, Manitoba last year pulling a trailer to pick up an old tractor. I think you now will need a passport to cross the border but maybe that starts January 1, 2008.

Anyway, All I had to do was stop and fill out a form @ US Border. Didn't cost a thing. I'm not sure where you are located but I would call US Customs @ the location you plan to return into the US and just ask them. They will be happy to answer your questions and put you to ease.

Good Luck.

Dave

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Brent in IA

08-28-2007 22:29:22




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 Re: Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada in reply to dave westlund, 08-28-2007 20:26:09  
Don't take this as the correct law from me but I think the Jan. 1, 2008 passport law got changed only to airplane travelers. This was mainly because of the backlog and length of time it is currently taking to process passport requests. The new date for "all" travel including car/truck/bus to Canada requiring a passport - I have heard- will be later than Jan 2008. Again, it always pays to check with Customs first.

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john *.?-!.* cub owner

08-28-2007 19:43:52




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 Re: Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada in reply to Dave H (MI), 08-28-2007 19:24:19  
I have never done it myself, but i have seen posts to the affect that if it were manufactured in the U.S. there were no duties, but if Canada made there would be duties to pay.



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Hugh MacKay

08-29-2007 02:43:18




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 Re: Exporting a Farm Tractor from Canada in reply to john *.?-!.* cub owner, 08-28-2007 19:43:52  
John: There is no duty across North America on farm equipment. The particular machines that may fall into question are those built outside North America.



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