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Big Red Man

08-28-2007 07:04:32




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Baled 210 wire tied bales yesterday with my 1939 Farmall H and a New Holland 246 baler. (Would loved to have had a live pto, of course.) On very big windrows the H got hot. I assume its never been cleaned in its 68 year lifetime. I'm scared of trying to remove the radiator cause I'm afraid it'll fall apart. I think that I've read (somewhere) to put a cup of powdered TIDE in the radiator, run it, drain it out and refill with water/coolant. A mechanic said go to a parts store and get a can of radiator cleaner as the TIDE idea was more for when there is oil in the coolant. Whaddya think? Thanks for the info.

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dhermesc

08-28-2007 14:19:00




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
Best thing we've found is Cascade dish washing detergent. Works in $400,000 cranes it ought to be good enough for an H.



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georgeky

08-28-2007 13:21:18




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
Just thunk of it. Check your timing. If it is off just a tad it will cause them to run hot.



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Bob Kerr

08-28-2007 11:09:46




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
I would clean the fins with air and then drain the old water out from the block and the rad both. then fill it with distilled or rain water and run it in there for a couple weeks, drain it out again and refill with another round of distilled or rain water. If there is scale inside, the pure water when hot will disolve it slowly.Be sure to run it a lot when hot and when you drain it, drain it while hot and refil it when cooled off. But if there is a lot of what I call "rust worms" in the head it may have to be pulled and hot tanked. That is a good time to grind valves also. Any acid or compound in that old thin radiator will cause it to leak. I would also thnk about changing the thermostat. You should have seen what was left of the one that came out of my H. Totally corroded away to jagged metal peices. I have a feeling the radiator on mine may be thin inside also judging from what happened to the thermostat. Refil it with the full strength antifreeze mixed with disitlled water only! I have a feeling that premixed 50/50 stuff uses tap water!

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john d

08-28-2007 10:47:59




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
Check to see that the radiator fins aren't clogged with dirt, and that the fan belt isn't slipping.



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greg thon

08-28-2007 08:57:32




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
be careful using anything to clean your radiator. Solvents that you put in there will find any thin spots in the radioater and then you really will have a problem with you radioater leaking so i would wait till hays in.



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glennster

08-28-2007 08:32:52




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
washing soda is the product to use, grocery stores usually carry it by the landry detergent, also ace hardware. here is a page from an old tractor book on cleaning a cooling system.
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Janicholson

08-28-2007 07:59:16




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
The side cover under the carb can be removed and this allows clear access to remove rust and scale from the lower cylinder area. I recommend this, followed by a good flush with a professional grade (Gunk) flush agent following the directions. JimN



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Steven f/AZ

08-28-2007 07:34:21




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
Have you tried compressed air to clean the dirt, hay, etc. from the radiator fins? Go with the simple stuff first!



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georgeky

08-28-2007 07:14:53




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
Like Hal said, something is definitely wrong, as the H should not get hot at all running a baler. Have baled many bales with a SC and 230 and they never ran hot



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Allan In NE

08-28-2007 07:11:37




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
Pull the hood off and clean the radiator out with a garden hose from both directions. That's kind of a yearly chore if ya use 'em in the hay fields.

Allan



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El Toro

08-28-2007 07:08:23




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 Re: Hot H in reply to Big Red Man, 08-28-2007 07:04:32  
If your radiator is as bad as you described it I think you should get a new one before you overheat
your engine and crack a head or worse. Hal



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