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New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue

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TAG

08-27-2007 13:51:01




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I just bought my first old tractor to do some road maintenance where I live in the Colorado mountains. The tractor is a 1947 Super A and I bought it frm the second owner who has had it here at my elevation (8500') for the last 13 years.

The tractor has a lot of minor issues as you would expect from a 60 year old unrestored tractor. It was converted to 12 volt by the 1st owner with a generator. It does not seem to be charging and I am planning to convert it to an altenator wired exactly as suggested on forums at this site.

Otherwise, it seems to run great, with one major exception. I ran it for about 5 hours working on my road the 1st day I had it and then it died on me. I thought I had just run down the battery nd dropped one from my truck in it. Now it dies continually under load. It cranks right up and starts after it dies but dies again after going about 100 yards, uphill. The steeper the grade the sooner it dies.

If my driveway was all down hill I wouldn't have an issue but it seems more uphill than down. Any ideas on what to look at to see why it dies under load?

One other thing, the guy had it wired up to bypass the ignition switch and ammeter. He said they got wet once and he had to bypass them. After the 1st time it died, I rewired it according to the wiring diagram in the manual with the changes recommended for negative ground and 12v on this site. I cleaned the ignition switch and wired the ammeter back in. The ignition switch, and light switch work fine but the ammeter is all rusty and I don't trust it (I have ordered a new one).

Thanks for reading the novel here. Any direction would be greatly appreciated.

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Bob Kerr

08-29-2007 20:09:13




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 Re: New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue in reply to TAG, 08-27-2007 13:51:01  
Sounds like it is crud in the strainer or line. Also check for a kinked fuel line. Whatever is blocking the fuel isn't bad enough to kill it at slower speeds, but if working it the throttle opens up and it starves. Had a kinked rubber line near the fuel tank of a 70 442 once. car would go fine normlly, but when I put a trailer on it AND go up a long upgrade it would sputter and cough bad after a few minutes. It was running on the gas that was in the line and the kink wouldn't let enough go through under long heavy loads.

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TAG

08-29-2007 20:24:03




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 Re: New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue in reply to Bob Kerr, 08-29-2007 20:09:13  
Thanks for all the suggestions! I pulled the tank today and found a buch of crud in the feed to the sediment bowl, including a wasp body. I am letting the tank dry overnight and and will blow out any loose stuff with the compressor tomorrow.

Thanks again for all the suggestions!



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Gene S in IA

08-27-2007 17:39:44




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 Re: New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue in reply to TAG, 08-27-2007 13:51:01  

Has anyone made a strainer for the tank outlet fitting. Some other tractor brands have them. will any of these work in an M?
. Mine keeps clogging up and i cant get all the crud out (hides behind baffle).



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jonnny2006

08-27-2007 16:07:03




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 Re: New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue in reply to TAG, 08-27-2007 13:51:01  
You should do a flo test on your fuel line at the CARB. it will eather have a wing nut (KERO/DIST) or a plug (gas only "X1" suffix) Take the plug or wing nut all the way out and turn on the gas on. on level ground. You should get a good 1/4 inch streem, make sure you let it run for 3o seconds or so. if you don't get a fast streem of gas and it is flowing slow or changes how fast the gas comes out after a few seconds, you have a restriction some where. Make sure you check the fuel screen at the front of the carb where the gas line feeds into the carb. unscrew this and cleen/ replace the screen. do another flow test. if that dint help you most likley have crud blocking the fuel flow in the tank or you have a blocked screen at the top of the sedimate bowl. Take the sedimate bowl off and cleen the screen and see if the gas is flowing fast out of the tank with the sedimate bowl off. Also make sure you loosen the cap on the gas tank when doing a flow test to make sure you don't have a blocked fuel vent in the gas cap. if the problume is in the tank, I like to take the tank off and drain it dry and have a look inside with a flashlight. if there is alot of rust or crud in there It is important to get it cleen. If you have good gas flow to the carb and the tank is cleen it is probally the carb itself. Take the carb apart and put a kit into it, making sure the float and gas valve are not sticking. Make sure you clean all the new parts in your new kit with carb cleaner especally the new seat valve, as they have a film on them from the factory that cause them to stick open and closed. Hope this helps..... .Jonnny2006

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TAG

08-27-2007 16:11:49




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 Re: New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue in reply to jonnny2006, 08-27-2007 16:07:03  
Thanks Johnny, great info on troubleshooting a fuel issue!



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RustyFarmall

08-27-2007 14:16:00




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 Re: New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue in reply to TAG, 08-27-2007 13:51:01  
Take a look into the fuel tank. Sounds like there may be some foriegn material floating around that occasionally blocks the fuel inlet.



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A. Bohemian

08-27-2007 14:29:42




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 Rust Never Sleeps in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-27-2007 14:16:00  
Buy an Owner's Manual. Read it right away. It will help you avoid expensive mistakes.

I agree about the rust. Look around inside the tank. A dentist's mirror and a flashlight are helpful here.

You should also check the sediment bowl-tiny rust particles here often mean bigger ones elsewhere.

Park the tractor on level gound. Pull the drain plug (if your carb has one) or the fuel line. Have something ready to catch the gas as it runs out!

You should have a steady stream, the diameter of the plug or line. Run a gallon or more through to make sure you test it thoroughly.

A weak or inconsistent stream means you need to work on the fuel system.

To preclude such problems in the future, keep the tractor INDOORS when not in use, especially in winter. It will run better and last longer if you do.

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TAG

08-27-2007 14:24:07




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 Re: New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-27-2007 14:16:00  
Are you thinking in the tank, large enough to block fuel leaving the tank? Is the outlet for the tank in the back of the tank. If so, this makes a lot of sense as when it first started doing it i backed up the steepest part of my road with no issues.

THANKS!



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georgeky

08-27-2007 15:28:59




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 Re: New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue in reply to TAG, 08-27-2007 14:24:07  
The outlet is toward the front on all letter series Farmall gas tanks.



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RustyFarmall

08-27-2007 14:45:09




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 Re: New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue in reply to TAG, 08-27-2007 14:24:07  
The fuel tank outlet is right where the glass sediment bowl is located. Should be more or less in the center. Just a thought, but you might also be low on fuel. You wouldn't be the first tractor owner to make that mistake.



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TAG

08-27-2007 14:49:37




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 Re: New (old) Tractor Stalling Issue in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-27-2007 14:45:09  
Fuel is probably 2/3 full. I think drain and strain would be a good idea then flush out tank.

Thanks again!



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