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Karl Hamson

08-22-2007 12:25:17

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Well, my American friends, YOUR birds, bald eagles got five of my lambs last spring. One incident was right in front of my wife which really upset her. However I consider it a privilege to live where bald eagles live and thrive. They were here first and we just have to be careful with newborn lambs.

However OUR bird, the Canada goose, is proving to be an unrelenting pest. I do not mind a pair but the population on my farm has grown to about 50. They eat the green grass, pollute my pond and foul my pastures. Anyone have any good ideas on how to get them to stay away? I sic the dog onto them, throw rocks, yell, etc. to no avail. Hunting and/or shooting is very restricted on the small island where I live. When I was a youngster and we were goose hunting, if wild Canada geese even suspected there was a human around they would not come within a 1000 feet. Now they are rats with wings.

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David Snipes

08-23-2007 09:22:43

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 12:25:17

If only the eagles would eat the goslings instead of the lambs.

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VA Gasman

08-23-2007 04:25:08

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 12:25:17

My dad said back in the thirties they used Victor Steel traps. Stake out the trap, wedge corn kernels in the V cutout on the trap pedal trigger, then set trap , spinkle corn on the ground and wait. Trap usually catches one at a time.

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NDS

08-22-2007 17:32:58

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 12:25:17

You are not alone thousands of your Canadian Geese have taken up permanent residence in Alabama year round quess migrating got to be too much.

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CityBoy-McCoy

08-22-2007 18:26:11

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to NDS, 08-22-2007 17:32:58

NDS:
Don't mean to hurt your feelings, but it's not "Canadian" Geese. It's "Canada" Geese.
mike durhan

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NDS

08-23-2007 15:51:29

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to CityBoy-McCoy, 08-22-2007 18:26:11

I am sure you are right but to us pore, Southern country folks anything from Canada or reputed to be from Canada or associated with Canada is Candian.

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Jim in Ma.

08-22-2007 17:30:50

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 12:25:17

How about Sunday dinner???

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GeneMO

08-22-2007 14:37:10

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 12:25:17

Do a search on the web for "Bird Bangers" You can buy a little launcher (looks like a .22 handgun). For about $40 a hundred you can get screamers or bangers. The gun fires a .22 blank which launches the banger and ignites the fuse. I buy 100 of each and actually just play with them for the most part. There are several companies which sell them. You will have to sign a form and fax it back to them stating that you are using these for agricultral purposes only. At least that is how it works here in the US. Oh, They have to be shipped by UPS and you will have to pay a hazordoux shipping charge.

Gene

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chuck46

08-22-2007 14:11:48

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 12:25:17

Hi Karl, A good border collie can be trained to keep them away, but that depends on if your farm is small enough for one to patrol. Good luck, Chuck

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don g

08-22-2007 13:43:03

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 12:25:17

If you live close to a golf course they may be able to help you out some.Canada geese have become quite a problem for them and they might have a few idea for you.

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MN Mike

08-22-2007 13:38:24

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 12:25:17

Karl,
I don't know if you have restrictions on fireworks where you live but some black cats thrown near by a few times are usually enough to startle them and keep them from coming back.

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Dave H (MI)

08-22-2007 12:36:21

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 12:25:17

I have to agree with George on this and add that feeding of these animals is a big problem too. It would only take a couple of seasons where people were allowed to shoot them on the ground and they would go back to being wild. The latest one in my neighborhood is sandhill cranes. Used to be rare but now they are across the road in my neighbors yard everyday....wonder why? Now they are walking across the road and I have to watch my young chickens. Make a heck of a racket too if you never heard them.

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georgeky

08-22-2007 12:29:06

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 12:25:17

Well Karl that is what comes of no hunting. Folks don't seem to understand that without thinning these and most other critters down they will become a pest. Deer are so thick now that they are driving car insurance up along with everything else it seems.

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old

08-22-2007 12:39:51

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to georgeky, 08-22-2007 12:29:06

Geo, I work very hard each year to thin down the deer herds here. On my place I have 15-20 deer stands and been thinking I need to put up a few more. LOL

Hobby farm

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georgeky

08-22-2007 12:49:02

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to old, 08-22-2007 12:39:51

Rich, I do my part as well, but there are still lots of them. They go right well with all those maters I have been canning. Also make lots of jerky out of them. Those geese even make good jerky. Water all down yet?

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old

08-22-2007 13:37:16

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to georgeky, 08-22-2007 12:49:02

For the most part the water is gone other then in my ponds which is good and in the creek which isn't good since with the creel still flowing it hurts my back pocket. But the good thing is when the creek came up it washed in more gravel so that means more money in the long run

Hobby farm

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Patrick Martin

08-22-2007 16:53:45

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to old, 08-22-2007 13:37:16

Shoot one and hang it updside down on a post, the smell of death will keep them away.
I do this with crows and blackbirds in my garden, they perch on the fence and call to the dead one and investigate for the first day, afterwards they split and I see them no more.

Another solution is to get a cat.

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Karl Hamson

08-22-2007 17:08:19

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Patrick Martin, 08-22-2007 16:53:45

I have barm cats and they are afraid of the geese. They went after my lab when he went swimming after them. Maybe a cougar would do the job but that would maybe not work too well with the sheep. Or the calves. Or the neighbors kids. I might get a pellet gun as range is often about 40 feet. The police station is about 500 yards away so a shotgun out of season is likely to give me some problems.

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Patrick Martin

08-22-2007 17:37:37

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 17:08:19

HA! You need meaner cats! :)

The pellet gun sounds good, that or use .22 CB shorts in your .22 if you have one. Those are very quiet.

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mark

08-22-2007 17:34:26

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Re: OT our national birds in reply to Karl Hamson, 08-22-2007 17:08:19

do a google search on the Metro shotgun barrels...which are actually classified as an extended choke tube. Interesting reading...more or less works like a shotgun silencer for use in 'metro' areas. Takes a special shell loaded by Federal (loaded to subsonic velocity).

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