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ggg7lazy77

08-15-2007 16:22:56




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Just had a couuple of general questions on a new 706 gas that I recently got. Does anybody have the replacement numbers (NAPA, FRAM, IH, etc.) for the oil & hydraulic filters? Is there a good all-weather oil I can use year-around? What are the best plugs to run in it & the number on them? From my little research, I guess I don't want to run to hot of a plug.
Thanks, Granger




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Tyler Fortney

08-21-2007 18:17:48




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to ggg7lazy77, 08-15-2007 16:22:56  
for oil filters the best brand to use is fleetgard
for oil use low ash sae 30 (summer) sae 10 (winter) Also be sure to burn fuel no lower than 93 octane.
Good luck, Tyler Fortney



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ggg7lazy77

08-16-2007 16:19:04




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to ggg7lazy77, 08-15-2007 16:22:56  
SURE LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE TO FIND THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE THAT HAVE THE UPMOST KNOWLEDGE ON THESE TRACTORS FOR ADVICE. I HAVE ALREADY STARTED PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT I THINK ARE KNOWLEDGIBLE ON TRACTORS & WILL ONLY USE THEIR ADVICE!



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Erik in WI

08-15-2007 18:56:59




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to ggg7lazy77, 08-15-2007 16:22:56  
I have a 706 gas with the 291 engine and run only Case IH low ash oil - straight 30 in warm weather and straight 10 weight in winter. Know of others who have used other oils (not low ash) and had serious trouble.



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MN Scott

08-15-2007 18:45:19




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to ggg7lazy77, 08-15-2007 16:22:56  
For oil you have to run LOW ASH oil only in IH six bang gassers. If you don't and you work it any at all you will burn valves. You can get low ash oil at your CIH dealer or from a good oil supplier. For plugs your right, run cool ones. The proper Champion one is D-15Y or an equivelent heat range in the brand of your choice.



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Janicholson

08-15-2007 17:37:43




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to ggg7lazy77, 08-15-2007 16:22:56  
I'll recommend 15-40 Rotella, or Delo brand oil
If it is terrible cold 10-40 also works well (Shell or Chevron) JimN



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the tractor vet

08-16-2007 10:59:02




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to Janicholson, 08-15-2007 17:37:43  
You must have stock in Clevit or Seal Power as it will not be long before ya eat a exhaust valve or two or three and ya can put them back together have evrything set dead on and the vary first time ya put a good long load on it and you will get to do the next two or three valse and after ya pull the same head five or six times in as many weeks ya may get the idea that your socalled Rotilia maybe not made for a I H 6 cylinder gasser . That is why they make the I H low Ash oil . Between fuels and oils i have learned alot over the past 40 plus years and learned it the hard way . Maybe that is why myself and my buddys are getting along just fine with our old tractors as we have been running what the Mfg. calls for and since we have been doing this i spend alot less time worken on the engines . Just like the fuel thing on the gasser the next time we eat a piston because of impropper fuel delivered to the farm they will eat the repair bill and my new labor rate to them is twice what Cat gets for a road call. as i do not need the experance in putting sleeves and pistons in or pullen heads to do a valve job. Like when i bought my old semi new i went with Texaco for my oil and greases and from the time of the second oil change my Cummins started burning a gallon a day in 400-500 miles while my buddys truck that was almost a carbon copy of mine less the paint did not burn a drop as he was on Delo . After 8 mo. Cummins had to rebuild mine and luckly they did not have to pull the crank but if i had went maybe another 10000 miles it would have taken a crank and cam as all the bearings Rings and sleeves were shot like it had over a half million miles when it only had a littel over 80000 , the place i was buying my lubes from were buying in balk and had there owen system to fill drums well all there bulk oils of all kinds flowed into one pipe that they filled all the differant drums out of and they were contaminating all there drumed oil . I was one of the lucky ones that did not have to pay for there mistakes . But a oil that is made for one thing my work on some other things but not all engines . I figure it this way the men that design and build the engine know way more then i and they set down what requirements are needed for the best life of said engine . So that is why the gassers at our places run the 30 weight low ash and the diesels run the 30 weight #1 diesel as all these engines were designed and built BEFORE the onset of the mulitgrades and this is what the book calls for , now the dodge cummins that we all have all get the 15-40 seires three i run the Delo 400 in mine Eugene and Vernon run the Case I H #1 Diesel in the 15-40 i theres as they buy enough oil from the friendly local Case I H store during open house days at a 25% off deal because they buy somany drums of the oil and the Hy tran . Where as me i only go thru maybe twenty gallon or so for the dodge and maybe five for the wifes car and my old ranger that it does not pay to buy what littel i get for the cars and trucks . As for my tractors they get changed out of what Eugene gets as he puts more hours on it then i do . My 806 is pushen 9000 hrs and the head has never been off or the pan down . Don't think that you will get that out of a 15-40 in one of them old tractors to live that long.

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Janicholson

08-16-2007 20:22:54




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to the tractor vet, 08-16-2007 10:59:02  
Well we will just have to disagree. I for sure respect your opinion, and have learned many things from you, but I will stand firm on this experience built belief. JimN



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the tractor vet

08-16-2007 10:55:16




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to Janicholson, 08-15-2007 17:37:43  
You must have stock in Clevit or Seal Power as it will not be long before ya eat a exhaust valve or two or three and ya can put them back together have evrything set dead on and the vary first time ya put a good long load on it and you will get to do the next two or three valse and after ya pull the same head five or six times in as many weeks ya may get the idea that your socalled Rotilia maybe not made for a I H 6 cylinder gasser . That is why they make the I H low Ash oil . Between fuels and oils i have learned alot over the past 40 plus years and learned it the hard way . Maybe that is why myself and my buddys are getting along just fine with our old tractors as we have been running what the Mfg. calls for and since we have been doing this i spend alot less time worken on the engines . Just like the fuel thing on the gasser the next time we eat a piston because of impropper fuel delivered to the farm they will eat the repair bill and my new labor rate to them is twice what Cat gets for a road call. as i do not need the experance in putting sleeves and pistons in or pullen heads to do a valve job. Like when i bought my old semi new i went with Texaco for my oil and greases and from the time of the second oil change my Cummins started burning a gallon a day in 400-500 miles while my buddys truck that was almost a carbon copy of mine less the paint did not burn a drop as he was on Delo . After 8 mo. Cummins had to rebuild mine and luckly they did not have to pull the crank but if i had went maybe another 10000 miles it would have taken a crank and cam as all the bearings Rings and sleeves were shot like it had over a half million miles when it only had a littel over 80000 , the place i was buying my lubes from were buying in balk and had there owen system to fill drums well all there bulk oils of all kinds flowed into one pipe that they filled all the differant drums out of and they were contaminating all there drumed oil . I was one of the lucky ones that did not have to pay for there mistakes . But a oil that is made for one thing my work on some other things but not all engines . I figure it this way the men that design and build the engine know way more then i and they set down what requirements are needed for the best life of said engine . So that is why the gassers at our places run the 30 weight low ash and the diesels run the 30 weight #1 diesel as all these engines were designed and built BEFORE the onset of the mulitgrades and this is what the book calls for , now the dodge cummins that we all have all get the 15-40 seires three i run the Delo 400 in mine Eugene and Vernon run the Case I H #1 Diesel in the 15-40 i theres as they buy enough oil from the friendly local Case I H store during open house days at a 25% off deal because they buy somany drums of the oil and the Hy tran . Where as me i only go thru maybe twenty gallon or so for the dodge and maybe five for the wifes car and my old ranger that it does not pay to buy what littel i get for the cars and trucks . As for my tractors they get changed out of what Eugene gets as he puts more hours on it then i do . My 806 is pushen 9000 hrs and the head has never been off or the pan down . Don't think that you will get that out of a 15-40 in one of them old tractors to live that long.

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todd hamilton

08-15-2007 17:33:34




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to ggg7lazy77, 08-15-2007 16:22:56  
Also there was quite a discussion on this board a few weeks ago about octane rating for a 706. It is a high compression engine and I believe the tractor vet said it called for 93 octane gas. The 706 is one of my favorite tractors - I had a lot of operating time on two different ones when I was a kid. They can be a little difficult to keep running but they go like heck when they are tuned right. I hope to have one myself someday.

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ggg7lazy77

08-15-2007 17:47:50




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to todd hamilton, 08-15-2007 17:33:34  
I appreciate you response. I have read numerous things that you DEFINATELY want to run atleast 93 octane in these tractors.



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El Toro

08-15-2007 17:07:10




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 Re: 706 questions in reply to ggg7lazy77, 08-15-2007 16:22:56  
The oil filter is 51151 from Wix, 1151 from NAPA.
Hydraulic filter is 51253 or 1253 from NAPA.
Someone else can recommend the oil. Hal



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