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How to tighten an M head?

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terryjd98

08-12-2007 10:09:29




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Hi All Had to pull the head on my dads M to get the valves done and have it checked out. I was wondering if somebody could tell me what order the head bolts would have to be put in and tightened? Also what to torque the head bolts to and what to start to torque them at and work the way up to the final torque? Also dad thinks by the looks of the pistons there has been antifreeze getting into the cylinders but it has never blown white smoke but the oil will get right black after just a few hours use after an oil change. Don't see any anitfreeze in the oil just it turning black so fast. Pulled the head in the first place because when taking compression readings of the cylinders and setting the rocker arm clearence there was all of a sudden no compression in cylinder 4. Valves needed to be done so sent the head to the machine shop to have it gone over and checked for cracks. Would it be worth the time now to pull the piston also to check for a broken ring or would a person be better off waiting to get the head back and on first then go from there? Sorry for the long post but trying to figure out what should be done and how to do it. Thanks for any help or comments, opnions. Terry

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City-Boy McCoy

08-12-2007 13:35:17




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 Re: How to tighten an M head? in reply to terryjd98, 08-12-2007 10:09:29  
George says an M is 110 ft/lbs for head torque. So, torque at 35 the first round; 70 or 75 the second round and 110 the 3rd round. mike



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Buzzman72

08-12-2007 10:54:56




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 Re: How to tighten an M head? in reply to terryjd98, 08-12-2007 10:09:29  
A good rule of thumb on torqueing head bolts is to start with a bolt closest to the center of the head and torque them in a circular/spiral pattern, ending with one of the outermost head bolts.

Another rule of thumb is to torque the bolts in three steps...in other words, if the specified torque is 75 foot-pounds, torque ALL the bolts to 25, then torque all the bolts to 50, then torque all the bolts to 75. And after running the engine a few hours, and getting the engine well warmed up, it's a good idea to re-torque the bolts...again, in sequence.

BTW...most Farmall M's I ever saw used studs and nus, rather than head bolts.

Coolant won't turn your oil black...but dirt will. Coolant in the oil will make it look milky.

Since you already removed the head, it won't help now...but a cylinder leakdown test would've told you whether the rings or the valves were at fault for low compression. With compressed air applied to a cylinder at TDC on the compression stroke--which would mean that the valves are also closed--hearing air leaking out the intake would indicate a bad intake valve; hearing air leaking out the exhaust would indicate a bad exhaust valve; and hearing air leaking into the crankcase would have indicated bad compression rings.

A lack of compression could be the result of an intake valve not opening...perhaps from a bent or broken pushrod, or a bad rocker arm, as well as a leaking valve or ring problem. If your lack of compression coincided "suddenly" and directly with a valve adjustment, I'd suspect valves that weren't closing as a result of improper adjustment [too tight], rather than a "sudden" burned valve or a "sudden" failed compression ring.

But then, long-distance diagnosis IS a very INexact science.

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City-Boy McCoy

08-12-2007 13:38:16




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 Re: How to tighten an M head? in reply to Buzzman72, 08-12-2007 10:54:56  
That's right, Buzzman.
mike



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City-Boy McCoy

08-12-2007 10:43:07




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 Re: How to tighten an M head? in reply to terryjd98, 08-12-2007 10:09:29  
Terry: Start tightening the head in the center; then, do the next two toward the front, then the next two toward the rear, etc. You will finish up with the very front and very back bolts (or studs) last. In other words, start in the middle and work out both ways from there.

My M book is at the farm, but I think the head torques to 75 lbs. Close enough anyway. Torque in three steps; 25lbs, 50lbs and 75lbs.

As far as the posssibility of broken ring(s), turn #4 piston to bottom dead center. Inspect cylinder walls for unusual vertical scratched places. Often, but not always, a broken ring will scratch a cylinder wall. If in doubt, tear it down and fix it right. Cheapest way in the long run.

Good luck.
mike

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georgeky

08-12-2007 13:29:24




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 Re: How to tighten an M head? in reply to City-Boy McCoy, 08-12-2007 10:43:07  
M torques at 110 pounds. H is 75.



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