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460D needs rebuild, I need help.

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Help needed

08-05-2007 19:54:07




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My Father in law has a 460d. Here is the situation. Its hard to start. Takes either or pull start or both sometimes. But when running runs and pulls good. But... smokes and uses a lot of oil soooo...
I know that obviously to do it right it needs a engine kit sleeves pistons etc. I also know that the head will need to be worked. Probably valve seats and valves and who knows what. But it is a fair tractor. My main question is how to decide on the injector pump and injectors because it does run good when running and has good power. I know a couple of the glow plugs arent working. So how do I decide on the pump for sure any tests or things I can do myself. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

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Owen Aaland

08-05-2007 20:52:55




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 Re: 460D needs rebuild, I need help. in reply to Help needed, 08-05-2007 19:54:07  
To get a 460D to start decent you need to have all the glow plugs working. You can check them without taking them out. Disconnect all but one and then press the glow plug switch. A good plug should move the meter about 1/3 to 1/2 way. Check them all one at a time. Replace any that do not move the needle in the gauge.

With the glow plugs warm, 30 to 45 seconds in warm weather, try to start the engine. If you get steady white smoke out the exhaust while cranking, the injection pump and injectors are working.

Slow cranking speed will cause a hard start situation. If when you have the glow plugs working and you are sure that you are getting fuel to the cylinders, it does not start on the starter but does readily start by pulling, repair the starter, battery, and or cables.

460Ds are very sensitive to proper valve recession in the cylinder head. The original specs were from .003 to .046 below the surface of the head. Later specs called for .048 to .064 or in that range. Use the early specs and keep them as close to .003 as possible. Once you get near .050 it will be hard to start.

How much blowby do you have coming out the breather pipe on the side of the engine when it is pulling hard? That will give you a good indication to the condition if the sleeves and pistons. Too much blowby or a properly maintained breather system can be the cause of a lot of oil being blown out the breather pipe. It is not unusual for these engines to blow more oil out when lightly loaded than they do when they are pulling hard.

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Help needed

08-06-2007 03:42:50




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 Re: 460D needs rebuild, I need help. in reply to Owen Aaland, 08-05-2007 20:52:55  
There is a lot of blow by thats why I am fairly sure it needs a engine kit. Only a teardown will tell for sure but I know its been road pretty hard in the last 20 years and never been rebuilt and has had a lot of ether put through it to. So my main concern was should I worry about the pump and injectors.



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Jimmy King

08-05-2007 20:28:38




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 Re: 460D needs rebuild, I need help. in reply to Help needed, 08-05-2007 19:54:07  
You can have the injectors tested, If it runs good I wouldn"t worry too much about the pump.



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