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Fluid in tires?

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michael price

08-03-2007 20:32:15




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I have a IH 484 and it has all 4 tires filled with fluid. I was wondering if you guys think fliud in the tires is good or not. I always liked the weight but a friend says its hard on the transmission. I have yet to see a tractors transmisson get tore up from fluid in the tires.

I was just wondering what you like, fluid or just air?

I need to get a new set for the rear some day soon and was wondering if they should be filled or not.

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Fromjb2

08-04-2007 07:03:49




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to michael price, 08-03-2007 20:32:15  
Hi my brother has had a 454 Diesel(older version of 484) since 1972 with CaCL in rear tires. Tractor is on 3rd set of tires and over 15,000 Hrs. Only problem has been not taking care of a small leak and had to replace one rear rim last year.

So as someone else said take care of any leaks ASAP.

JimB

Good luck with your 484



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Hugh MacKay

08-04-2007 03:47:45




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to michael price, 08-03-2007 20:32:15  
Michael: Liquid weight in tires is nothing more than a tool or attachment you add to a tractor, and like any other device it requires care and maintenence. Leaks must be attended to promptly, it's best to jack the rear wheel every 6-7 years and change the screw in valve stem. Do this with stem at top, thus you shouldn't loose any liquid in the process.

It's best to take these to a tire shop for changing, as most can pump the fluid quite quickly. I remember once asking tire shop to come with mobil and do it on farm. They came with new tires and tubes, never even removed rear wheels and they were gone in two hours. Some folks will tell you to buy equipment and do it yourself. I've heard some of those equipment discriptions, would probably take 4 days. If you buy equipment like my tire guy, it would be costly. Just a great job for the PRO'S.

I question the value of putting liquid in front tires, just not enough bang for your bucks. Calcium chloride is still your most economical liquid of choice. There are 40-50 year old tractors out there, same rims, because the maintenence was done.

Your question on transmission, yes excessive weight will create problems, but it's not liquid filled tires plus a couple of factory wheel weights. We've all seen these photos of cast concrete weights that filled rim center. I wouldn't worry about transmission unless you add enough weight to double weight of tractor.

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Steven@AZ

08-03-2007 21:43:29




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to michael price, 08-03-2007 20:32:15  
I know of tractors that are over 40 years old and 10,000 plus hours with fluid in the tires since new and never had a problem - still on original rims too!

Fluid won't hurt anything - you NEED to repair leaks ASAP and clean the area up. Pretty simple if you ask me.



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old

08-03-2007 20:45:24




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to michael price, 08-03-2007 20:32:15  
Fluid will not and never has hurt a tranny other wise wheels weights would be just as bad or worse and all companys made wheel weights for there tractors. Fluid is good and to me better the weights because it puts the weight where its needed not on a cushion of air. Now yes some fluid will cause problems if you get a leak in the tube thats why I use Windsheild wiper fluid in my tires now days. Doesn't rust the rim and is safe for animals to boot

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Doc Larry

08-04-2007 17:52:26




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to old, 08-03-2007 20:45:24  
Old,

I agree with all your comments on weight, tranny, etc, but windshield washer fluid isn't what I would consider safe for animals. Most of it contains methanol (wood alcohol).

Larry



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old

08-04-2007 19:20:44




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to Doc Larry, 08-04-2007 17:52:26  
Yes but unlike anti freeze its not sweet and they will not drink it like they do anti freeze. Thats the only reason its safe for them unless of course you force them to drink it that is



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markloff

08-03-2007 23:11:46




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to old, 08-03-2007 20:45:24  
What's the cheapest way to get windshield washer fluid?

Mark



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old

08-04-2007 09:08:30




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to markloff, 08-03-2007 23:11:46  
Ask around. At times you can find it in bulk and get it cheap that way, but be sure to get the winter mix not the summer mix the summer stuff will freeze but the winter stuff will not. Last time I got some it cost me $0.99 per gal. found it on sale that time but if you can find it bulk like the service places get it you can find it for a lot less but you also have to buy 55 gal. barrels of the stuff doing it that way.

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City-Boy McCoy

08-04-2007 06:11:36




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to markloff, 08-03-2007 23:11:46  
Why don't you ask around, or call around where you live? mike



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Dave 2N

08-04-2007 06:08:09




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to markloff, 08-03-2007 23:11:46  
We use winter windshield asher fluid in ours; we went to Wal-Mart and asked them to give us their best price on the number of gallons needed. Last time we did this was about 5 years ago and I think we got 150 gallons for about .$75/gallon. Manager of store wanted to make sure we weren't getting it for resale. We also put a small can of water bed conditioner in with the fluid for each tire to prevent "cooties" and mold or whatever could happen. WWFluid isn't quite as heavy as CaCL but most people are never going to know the difference. And--no more worries about rotted rims. Get ready for the "pooh-poohers" to crank up and tell you why you shouldn't use WWFluid. But I'm finding that more and more people are going to it.

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Dave2N

08-04-2007 06:09:16




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 Re: Fluid in tires? in reply to Dave 2N, 08-04-2007 06:08:09  
That should read 75 cents/gallon



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