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Crazy Red Power

08-01-2007 08:03:35

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I'm hittin' the field in a day or two with the H & a ground drive 7' McD binder. I pretty much have a good idea as to what's going on, but my operator has little knowledge of the operations of such an "antique". The manual is of little help in terms of instruction & I was wondering if some of you field savvy individuals could give us some advise. Thanks in advance! - Mike

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LA in Wi.

08-02-2007 07:38:12

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Re: Instructions for the guy on the binder, please... in reply to Crazy Red Power - S.E.-Wi, 08-01-2007 08:03:35

I remember that with the ground-driven binder, if you have real thick & tall oats you might have to pull away a little bit so you don't take a full cut. Even with the tractor in low gear we had to do that sometimes. Don't run that binder too fast....they were geared to operate at the speed of horses pulling it.

I drove an SC Case on one of these binders, the operator was big and fat....as a kid it was fun to watch him wince when we hit some big bumps (steel seat over the bull wheel), and of course I didn't slow down even though I hit the bumps first!

Oh, for cool drinks you need to have someone come out to you with a cold drink in a glass jar (with lid), and this was inserted into a larger tin can, with newspapers stuffed between the two containers for insulation. To own a thermos in those days was unheard of...or too extravagant.

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agpilot

08-02-2007 17:32:54

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Re: Instructions for the guy on the binder, please... in reply to LA in Wi., 08-02-2007 07:38:12

Hello LA in Wi:, So you remember well drinking the cool water brought out to where you were cutting?? Ahhh Ha. So do I. My one uncle lived on a bit of a hill and had been a well digger. His well was deep into a great vein of gravel and was the best tasting and coldest water I can remember as a kid.(pre-teenager).. That big ole long handle tin cup was hanging there in the well-house for any and all to use... and I enjoyed it. Almost better then any of the very cold beer my cousin and I would sometimes swipe since it was stacked in a cold water trough in the well-house... One year I got to drive a brand new 1948 Farmall "C" for picking up bundles. Life was good on that tractor... agpilot

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Michigan John

08-01-2007 08:28:04

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Re: Instructions for the guy on the binder, please... in reply to Crazy Red Power - S.E.-Wi, 08-01-2007 08:03:35

I spent many an hour watching my Dad and Uncle cut grain with an IH binder and W4. We had both steel and rubber tired drive wheel ones. For transport there were two rubber tired wheels that slipped onto each side near the bull (or drive) wheel. The tonque was then put into its transporting spot 90 degrees from the position used when cutting. In addition to the adjustments, there is of course, a lever to engage/disengage the bull (or drive) wheel. Shocked many acres of grain in my day. We ALWAYS put a cap onto seven bundles stacked in a circular fashion. Dad and Uncle Paul NEVER wanted rain to fall onto the heads of grain, hence a well placed cap over the seven standing sheaves. Most ALL farmers did it that way in my neck of the woods in Pa.(NE part) but have seen many w/o a cap which made my Dad/Uncle cringe and wonder why.

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agpilot

08-01-2007 08:25:43

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Re: Instructions for the guy on the binder, please... in reply to Crazy Red Power - S.E.-Wi, 08-01-2007 08:03:35

Hello: Good advice on 1st reply. I might add that the reel be not set too low. Try just below the heads of the grain. Lower tend to flip-flop the entire length of the grain stalk. The idea is to have a nice uniform placement of the grain into the knotters so the bundel will be tight and easy to handel in stacking as well as transporting later without falling apart. agpilot.... Ps: I always enjoyed cutting small grain such as Oats and Wheat... And Barley once.

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Roger in Iowa

08-01-2007 08:09:13

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Re: Instructions for the guy on the binder, please... in reply to Crazy Red Power - S.E.-Wi, 08-01-2007 08:03:35

Not familiar with the ground drive, but have been around a IHC pto.

Adjustments include (on IHC); height of cut, angle of cut, reel position (up and down and fore and aft), position of string on bundle (if string is too high toward the heads the bundle will flare out).

Hope this helps. If it has a bundle carrier, you have to dump it periodically and line them up with the ones dropped the round before. Then you do not have to carry far to shock.

Regards,
Roger in Iowa

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