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Farmall Tranny Overhaul

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Chris Heinzle

07-30-2007 07:02:46




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Just got done with my tranny overhaul (see previous post re: metric bearings). I replaced all the bearings except both inner and outer bearings on both axleshafts, for a total of 11 bearings, and all 9 seals. The bill for parts ran just over $900.

I originally got into it to change the brakes, but there was so much oil in the brake covers that I decided to do the bull pinion seals. It escalated from there.

The input shaft bearings were the most trashed, followed by the mainshaft pilot bearing and mainshaft bearing. The input shaft and mainshaft slopped side to side at the pilot bearing almost 0.100". I cant imagine the strange loads on the gear teeth that this created. Originally I thought I might have been missing a tooth on 2nd gear, but I think the noise was just attributed to shaft misalignment. After noting the slop, I was surprised that the gear teeth actually looked pretty darn good. The countershaft bearings werent too bad, but the were relatively cheap in comparison, so I changed them. The bull pinion bearings and diff bearings were bad enough to mangle the brake drum seals, so they got swapped too.

Now that its back together and running, the gear whine is rather excessive while in gear under load. Im attributing it to gears running 'right' after having been running 'wrong' for so long, and they will have to re-wear a little (I hope).

Splitting the case in all wasnt that big of a job (if you are faced with having to do this, dont be intimidated). An engine hoist on the tranny and a tall floor jack under the bell housing made it easy.

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pete_5959

07-30-2007 18:00:45




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 Re: Farmall Tranny Overhaul in reply to Chris Heinzle, 07-30-2007 07:02:46  
Chris, What model of tractor do you have? I am starting to reassemble a tranny in a SM. Did you take any pictures throughout your rebuild?



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Chris Heinzle

07-31-2007 10:14:22




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 Re: Farmall Tranny Overhaul in reply to pete_5959, 07-30-2007 18:00:45  
'48 M. I only took 2 pictures, and those were of the gears on the mainshaft so that I could remember how they went back together. Sorry :)



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K.B.-826

07-30-2007 16:26:49




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 Re: Farmall Tranny Overhaul in reply to Chris Heinzle, 07-30-2007 07:02:46  
Did you get your ring gear and pinion properly adjusted? If not, you'll have noise in all gears and it will never go away no matter how long you run it.



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Chris Heinzle

07-31-2007 10:18:01




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 Re: Farmall Tranny Overhaul in reply to K.B.-826, 07-30-2007 16:26:49  
That I did not mess with. I assumed that they would mesh up correctly with simply changing a bearing, knowing that there is perhaps a chance that they would not. I took that risk. That said, the gear whine seems proportional with engine speed rather than wheel speed, which would place its source more toward the front of the tranny rather than the back.



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Bob Kerr

08-06-2007 20:34:50




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 Re: Farmall Tranny Overhaul in reply to Chris Heinzle, 07-31-2007 10:18:01  
I saw this pretty late so hope you get it, been cutting wood for the last 2 weeks and living in a tent. My noise came from the input shaft gear and the constant mesh gear on the lower shaft. It does have a little whine under load or hard coast.



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georgeky

07-30-2007 07:08:28




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 Re: Farmall Tranny Overhaul in reply to Chris Heinzle, 07-30-2007 07:02:46  
Chris, maybe Bob Kerr will chime in, he just went through his and had a little excess noise when he finished as well. He went back in and found something he had missed and now says it is nice and quite.



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