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stn.tn.

07-22-2007 15:31:46




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i found a b450 for sale.fair fenders,lights tires and sheet metal, runs(not great,inj.problems.)i am wanting to get me red tractor.i am curious what is a decent price range?




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J. Klein Rot

07-23-2007 04:39:34




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 Re: B450 in reply to stn.tn., 07-22-2007 15:31:46  
Hi,

I have a B450 back home (the Netherlands). I am restoring this tractor a have got parts from Histoparts.com, new linings, new rings and a new bearing set. The engine starts real good now even when it is freezing outside, but you must glow for at least 1 minute. Many parts are interchangeble with M or Super M parts such as rearaxle oil seals PTO oil seal. But i need some brackets for the rear lights, these are mounted on the rear fenders, who nows some for sale??

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Hugh MacKay

07-22-2007 18:42:45




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 Re: B450 in reply to stn.tn., 07-22-2007 15:31:46  
stn: These tractors BMD, SuperBMD and B-450 were all built at Doncaster England, very much to Farmall M specs. There never was a Super BMDTA, and there never were very many gassers built. In fact I think the BM was the only gasser.

The production of these tractors does not run in sequence with US MD, Super MD and 450. The BM and BMD were built until mid 50s, then it became Super BMD with a factory 3 point hitch. Super BMD production ended around 1960, give of take a year and was followed by the B-450 until roughly 1966. These never had IPTO and M sheet metal remained until the end of B-450 production. The reason you see some these in the US, they were brought in to the southern US by IH during the early 60s to substitute a shortage of 460s.

Being direct start British diesels of that era they don't start very well in northern winter climates. There were British W6 WD6, Supers and 450 etc., same time frame a the British Farmalls and I'm told some of these made it to the Western Canadian grain belt. I'll bet they never used them in winter. We had to keep a Super C around just tow tow start the B-250, B-275, B-414 etc. in winter. Can you imagine trying to tow start those big ones at -30F

There is a fair bit of detail about these tractors on a site called Les Tracteurs Rouges. French site and it tells all the IH tractors built in Europe plus US built tractors imported to Europe. The one I like and it may surprise many North Americans is a Super C diesel, built in France. Man would I love to have one of those diesels for my Farmall 130. I know George would want a Super C diesel.

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georgeky

07-22-2007 20:59:34




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 Re: B450 in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-22-2007 18:42:45  
Hugh, you think I can get one of those SC diesels For 5 to 700 bucks? I am sure in the market for one. I bet a tank of fuel would run that thing for a week.



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farmhand

07-22-2007 17:55:22




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 Re: B450 in reply to stn.tn., 07-22-2007 15:31:46  
I have had and restored a B-450 Row crop back to original condition as I could get it. They are direct start diesels and parts are very hard and expensive to come by. The piston & ring set is $2000.00 and the glow plugs are 125.00 a piece and that is not including gaskets or pump and injector work if the motor has to be redone. They are very nice tractors with live Hyds and factory three point and I wished I had never sold mine but hind site is twenty twenty as they say. I have pictures of it still if you would like to see them send me your email and i will send them to you.

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960

07-22-2007 17:52:30




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 Re: B450 in reply to stn.tn., 07-22-2007 15:31:46  
I am in central Illinois and purchased a B-450 RC in 06 from Dallas, TX area. Tractor is complete, not running but loose and I paid $1500 plus transport. There was a running decent one on YT located in Iowa later for $4000 plus. Have seen one standard in my travels to shows but would love to have one with Roadless MFWD.



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John M

07-22-2007 16:36:43




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 Re: B450 in reply to stn.tn., 07-22-2007 15:31:46  
Which one is it, the row crop or the standard type. I had the standard type at one time, many of the engine parts will interchange with the American counterpart, the MD and Super MD, but the standard type I have no clue on. I sold mine not running for 1000, but had already had the head rebuilt.It was not on and the engine was locked up bad, but after some reasearch I found the sleeves and all for a Super MD will fit perfcetly, just couldnt afford them.

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Lanse

07-22-2007 16:01:39




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 Re: B450 in reply to stn.tn., 07-22-2007 15:31:46  
I have never heard of a B450 but looked at a B414 and if theyre anything alike, the 414 is for sale for $3900 online...



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georgeky

07-22-2007 16:23:08




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 Re: B450 in reply to Lanse, 07-22-2007 16:01:39  
Lanse, again you are replying to a guy with a ligitimate question about a tractor you have never heard of. The B-414 and B-450 are quite different tractors. Both built in England and before your time. I have heard of them and seen a couple, but have no idea what either is worth, so I wasn't even going to reply to him. I had on my mind to wait and see what someone else with more knowledge than myself answered with. We even have friends in England as well as other places who know about these. Even a few guys here do.

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