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Putting hydrulics on an A

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tinyy

07-09-2007 18:27:26




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My electric over hydrulic pump died(let the smoke out of the motor) it is on a farmall A. I have been thinking about putting a pump off the front pullys. What size pump would I need to do this and what is a good pump with out spending a lot of money on it. It will mainly run a front snow blade with hydra-turn. And what size oil resavore will I need?




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Haas

07-10-2007 14:23:53




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 Re: Putting hydrulics on an A in reply to tinyy, 07-09-2007 18:27:26  
I had a Shop mule (A engine) that had an added hydraulic system. Maybe about a one gallon reservoir, but the size depends on your application, size of cylinder, etc. There was a small pump that ran off the generator belt. I don't think it is a power steerin pump, but similar. Northern Tool has small pumps made for pulley operation that I think would work. They cost around $100 I think. Mine had a home made bracket to mount it and a little longer belt for the generator so that the belt ran both the generator and the pump. Pretty good set up, as you don't really need a relief valve, as the belt will just slip on high pressure. The set up was used ot lift a snow plow blade with about a 1 1/2 inch cylinder (one way) and a control valve. Worked well. This same setup was adapted to my I-6 where the snow plow now resides. Works good. I've never measured the pressure, but it has no problem with the blade which is heavy.

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Fancy Farm

07-10-2007 14:05:34




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 Re: Putting hydrulics on an A in reply to tinyy, 07-09-2007 18:27:26  
I just took a power steering pump and cultivators off an A that I restored to pull a trailor with a hammermill on it at our local shows. that pump worked those cultivators just fine and was not slow it ran off an extra pulley added to the generator and the whole thing worked great.



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Dave Sherburne NY

07-10-2007 13:09:15




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 Re: Putting hydrulics on an A in reply to tinyy, 07-09-2007 18:27:26  
My FIL put a pump on his from a Chevy Pickup. changed the pulley on the generator to a double sheave from a chrysler product. Hooked up with a
double acting cylinder eliminated the need for a
bigger resevoir.



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Doug in Pa

07-09-2007 19:08:47




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 Re: Putting hydrulics on an A in reply to tinyy, 07-09-2007 18:27:26  
I don't know where you are from , or whats available to you, but if you could find a junked older Yale forklift , most of those had a nice belt driven pump. Its mounted on the side of the motor and probably a 10 or 12 GPM size, more than enough for what you are doing, and real easy to mount. Like someone else said, a power steering pump would work, but you might look for one from a bigger truck to get more volume. Good luck !

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tinyy

07-09-2007 18:42:32




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 Re: Putting hydrulics on an A in reply to tinyy, 07-09-2007 18:27:26  
Well the pump I was using came off a cement truck and was used for raising and lowering the cement shute So it worked fairly quick I would like a little bit quicker response from the pump to raise the blade. I live on a highway need to move out of the way of some people that dont pay attion.



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Wisconsin Cowman

07-09-2007 18:40:34




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 Re: Putting hydrulics on an A in reply to tinyy, 07-09-2007 18:27:26  
A power steering pump off of a junked truck works. About the cheapest pump you can get.



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tinyy

07-09-2007 18:43:48




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 Re: Putting hydrulics on an A in reply to Wisconsin Cowman, 07-09-2007 18:40:34  

Wisconsin Cowman said: (quoted from post at 18:40:34 07/09/07) A power steering pump off of a junked truck works. About the cheapest pump you can get.
Did that and it was way to slow it may have been the pullys I was using.



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Doug in Pa

07-09-2007 18:35:19




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 Re: Putting hydrulics on an A in reply to tinyy, 07-09-2007 18:27:26  
Well,,if you got by with an electric driven one, I would say what you need is a small pump, its just a matter of how fast you want to lift your blade. The resevoir would be sized to the pump and cylinder to give enough volume for the traveletc. Again compare the volumn of oil in your electric pump and I'm sure its not very big.



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