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gregg7817

07-01-2007 19:08:03




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I have a chance to buy a 560 RC diesel tractor with a wide front and turbo. The owner said he thinks it dropped a sleeve. Said it had done it before but didn't remember if it was the same cylinder. What would cause it to drop? What would it be worth and a ballpark cost to repair?




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the tractor vet

07-01-2007 19:38:58




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 Re: 560 diesel question in reply to gregg7817, 07-01-2007 19:08:03  
The main reason that they drop sleeves is that the sleeve is to lose in the bore and the flang is thin and will break off and the piston drags the sleeve down . Now on the deck of the of the block each hole has a BORE CLASSand they are A-B and C-D . This tells the person that is replacing sleeves that if it has a A-B class. bore that a std. sleeve will work MOST TIMES , and if it has a C-D class, then it needs the oversize sleeve . Now all the aftermarket sleeves are for A-B class bores and if someone installed the A-B in a C-D hole then it does not fit as it should as these sleeves are of a PRESS fit not just stick them in a freezer and shove them in with a few taps of a block of wood and a hammer . Now the cure fore this is to have the hole that keeps sucken sleeves bored and a REPAIR sleeve pressed in and bored to a A-B class . hole and press in a new sleeve . Now if ya deal with a JOBBER engine supply you can get the C-D sleeves and do as i do build the engine kit pice meal costs a bit more but i get the fit that is required . to do the repairs ya have to pull the engine out of the chassie and do a complet tear down as to get and old timer to do it in the chassie them days are dead and gone . I had a machinest that had a portable boring bar and he would bring his bar and mic's i would pull the head and pan remove the piston on the bad hole and we would do them in the tractor .Then we would press in the new sleeve with the OTC hyd sleeve puller pusher . then rebore and install the sleeve and piston wash up and blow dry stick the head and pan back on and out the door .

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Wardner

07-01-2007 20:17:28




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 Re: 560 diesel question in reply to the tractor vet, 07-01-2007 19:38:58  
Now you got me worried, Vet.

I did an in-chassic kit job about ten years ago on my 660D. The sleeves came out easy and went in easy. They certainly weren't pressed in. I don't run this tractor hard. I have probably never run it for more than 2 hours at a time.

I was thinking about using it more due to the cost of gasoline and the fact that I have recently been getting "free diesel" by pumping out homeowner heating oil tanks who are switching over to natural gas.

If I have a hundred hours on this motor, should I consider my kits safe?

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the tractor vet

07-02-2007 16:17:19




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 Re: 560 diesel question in reply to Wardner, 07-01-2007 20:17:28  
Only time will tell and it will let ya know when it does suck one . That is why they have them letter stamped next to each hole so ya can get the correct fit sleeve . Over the years i have seen some block that are all A-B class. and some that are all C-D class and if ya want them all to be the A-B class. then ya bore the block and install a repair sleeve and bore it to the small bore . and be kind and re stamp the top of the block . I have seen or heard of guys take a hone to the block and hone on them so that they can just slide the new sleeve in and when it get sucked down around the crank they wonder what happened and why.

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