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Bill Geer

06-30-2007 12:56:55




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I need to do some weilding on my trailer. Will 6011 rod burn through paint & rust?
Or is there a better rod? Thanks Bill




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Bill Bridges

07-01-2007 07:55:13




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to Bill Geer, 06-30-2007 12:56:55  
The first two numbers are the streingth of the rod ... 60 means 60,000# and 70 is 70,000# the next number is the positions the rod can be used in ... 1 is an all position rod and the last number is dealing w/ the composition of the flux ... 6011 is an all around good rod for "farm-boy" welding in that it can be used with both AC or DC machines it can also be used either (+) or (-) ground ... in some cases the (+) ground DC has been known to work wonders - especially in really rusty conditions. 6011 actually has a higher tensle streingth than "5P" or 6010 which is the DC reverse polarity only rod that is the most commonly used root pass and filler rod. The combination or 6010 root and filler passes and 7018 cover pass is generally accepeted as "as good as it gets" unless the base material is 70,000#(+) ... there are also rods that go to 110,000#(+) ... ALWAYS CLEAN YOUR WORK PIECE as best as you can to avoid slag inclusions. Another fact is the difference in rod motion required during the use of different rod ... the 7018 cannot be "whipped" - it must be run with a steady motion or side to side during a "weave" and should never be run "down-hill" ... control of arc length is also key ... the longer the arc the hotter! If you run too hot it will splatter - if you run too cold it will not penetrate properly. I know this is more than likely more than anybody wanted to hear about ... maybe not! Anyway if you are not sure of yourself then have the work done by someone who is competent if it is a critical weld ... Later! Wild Bill

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williamf

06-30-2007 13:55:51




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to Bill Geer, 06-30-2007 12:56:55  
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I agree with george - I use 6011 for almost everything and it does fine. The more you clean it the better, but 6011 blows the paint and rust off better than anything else I can use with my AC 225.

I did learn this weekend how useful a wire wheel for the sidegrinder is for cleaning up first, and how much better it does than the chipping hammer and wire brush for cleaning off the slag before running another bead.

Also re-learned that frayed jeans and arc welding don't mix. Godd Luck, Wm

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Doc Larry

06-30-2007 16:14:21




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to williamf, 06-30-2007 13:55:51  
For the sake of the skin on top of your feet, you might want to set aside the lace-up boots along with the frayed jeans when you weld. I learned the hard way.

Larry



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georgeky

06-30-2007 17:49:38




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to Doc Larry, 06-30-2007 16:14:21  
Doc, I have been on fire many times.



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Doc Larry

07-01-2007 04:09:43




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to georgeky, 06-30-2007 17:49:38  
Well I don"t what to say to that! ;)



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georgeky

07-01-2007 09:49:04




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to Doc Larry, 07-01-2007 04:09:43  
S**t happens. I do a lot of welding on my back sometimes and slag will fall on a guy.



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Doc Larry

07-01-2007 14:10:26




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to georgeky, 07-01-2007 09:49:04  
Right. I decided on one hot day long ago to weld without a shirt on. "sun"burned both my belly and armpits. How"s that for stupid?



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billde

06-30-2007 13:45:22




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to Bill Geer, 06-30-2007 12:56:55  
If you do a little clean up first 7014 will give you slightly stronger welds, if you have AC DC 7018 also works well.



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El Toro

06-30-2007 13:39:03




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to Bill Geer, 06-30-2007 12:56:55  
Hit the rust and paint with a disc sander. Hal



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Bill Geer

06-30-2007 13:07:41




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to Bill Geer, 06-30-2007 12:56:55  
Thank You GeorgeKY



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georgeky

06-30-2007 13:00:07




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to Bill Geer, 06-30-2007 12:56:55  
In my opinion the 6011 can not be beat for farm related welding in most cases. I would clean the paint and rust as well as possible though.



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abraham

06-30-2007 17:54:59




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to georgeky, 06-30-2007 13:00:07  
what is wrong with a 7018 rod



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georgeky

06-30-2007 19:12:16




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 Re: o t arc welding in reply to abraham, 06-30-2007 17:54:59  
Nothing, I just don't keep a wide variety around and the 6011 is good for almost anything. I was taught to weld by my ag teacher(FFA advisor) and we learned on 6011s and he always claimed they were good and seemed to be right. I have had good results with the 6011. That teacher wasn't the run of the mill teacher either. He is one of the smartest men I have ever known. He is the county agent here in Clark county now. Said he finally graduated from school.

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