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Super C Hydraulics not working - Part II

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TreeFarmer1414

06-29-2007 16:56:25




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Gentlemen,

Thanks for all the good advice earlier this week on getting the hydraulics of my Super C working. The reservoir needed about 2 ½ pints of oil to bring it to the bottom of the filler hole. Per the instructions, moving the control levers back and forth many times with the filler plug out got things working. Two of the three control levers (single rockshaft arm and fast hitch) now work correctly. I need help on trouble-shooting and getting the control lever that operates the dual rockshaft arms to work. The left touch control lever, which operates the single rockshaft arm that controls the tilt of the fast hitch works great. It has the full range or arc of motion, about 8 inches of travel. However, the touch control lever, which controls the dual rockshaft arms for a front-mount implement like a cultivator, only has the rear 4 inches of travel. I have taken the arm connecting the lever with the pump off and you get full travel of the lever by the steering wheel when unattached. You cannot seem to move the arm attached to the pump when unattached from the control lever to get the front 4 inches of travel. And if you look on the bottom of the pump-reservoir casting, you can see that the arm only goes about half way to the stop. The stops on the bottom for the single rockshaft control lever have the full range of travel and go all the way to the stops in both directions when the lever is moved correspondingly. You can look up from the bottom and see that the arms are or are not against the stops. This is more easily seen from the left side. On the right side the starter interferes with the direct line of sight.

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. I finished assembling the left side cultivator today. All that is left to get the restoration complete is put the teeth on; the plow bolts for that will be here on Monday. But I cannot get everything to lift high enough to load. That front 4 inches of travel is needed. If I can get this problem corrected the tractor with cultivator on the front and carry-all platform on the fast hitch will go on a tractor ride on Sunday and to a parade on the Fourth of July.

OT: We were blessed with about 3.5 inches rain in the last week. It was very timely and very, very much needed.

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Paul Shuler

06-29-2007 18:46:16




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 Re: Super C Hydraulics not working - Part II in reply to TreeFarmer1414, 06-29-2007 16:56:25  
This may not help at all. On my dads old C he had one arm stick one time and I greazed the zerks real good and that rascal freed up.



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Hugh MacKay

06-29-2007 18:31:18




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 Re: Super C Hydraulics not working - Part II in reply to TreeFarmer1414, 06-29-2007 16:56:25  
Tree Farmer: I expect you have something jambing that control linkage up in and behind the rockshafts. You'll probably have to remove the rockshafts. You might be able to see and fix with fuel tank off. Ocasionally I have had small objects like tree limbs or twigs fall in there and jamb the linkage.

Before I leave this, you did say lever won't go full travel, right or wrong? Over the years I have had the rockshafts catch on each other, however that doesn't stop lever travel, plus the tractor will labour when lever is beyond rockshaft travel.

I expect you either have some foreign material or something has come out of place or unhooked. Could be as simple as a pin part way out.

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TreeFarmer1414

06-30-2007 17:40:30




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 Re: Super C Hydraulics not working - Part II in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-29-2007 18:31:18  
Hugh, When disconnected from the arm or rod going to the pump, the lever will go full travel. If you try manually to push the rod with the lever disconnected, you only get response up to the half way point. At this point without trying to break something, you cannot force it forward any farther. The engine is not laboring like the pump is pumping. And it doesn't seem like one rockshaft is catching on the other one; they go smooth until the double rockshaft one just stops moving at the half-way point. If things go right, the fuel tank and the rockshafts will come off tomorrow. Sure hate to ruin that nice paint job. But it's not good to me this way. Want to have something that I can use and be proud of.

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