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georgeky

02-13-2007 08:51:43




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I was reading here last night and the farm doctor left a nasty reply to sonny days question cocerning a fasthitch on a super h, even going as far as to threaten to come up there and kick sonnys butt. It has been edited today,he (the farm doctor is the one who should stay off this forum. There is no excuse for those remarks! He is not as smart as he thinks. I have seen fasthitch on 2 or 3 plain H's!

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georgeky

02-13-2007 10:06:29




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to georgeky, 02-13-2007 08:51:43  
Gene, I do not know the right answer. The ones I saw were at a farm auction about 15 years ago on a old hemp farm in Winchester, Ky. This farm had its own machine shop, they told us at the sale the shop foreman had rigged these up himself. I know the family, and will try to see if they may have some pictures. I always remember my mother telling me when I was a kid, That anything will work if it is hooked up right.

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Hugh MacKay

02-13-2007 15:30:03




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to georgeky, 02-13-2007 10:06:29  
George: There are all kinds of devices can be added to old tractors, but do they make economic sense. For the last number of years on average H and SH tractors with U drawbar have just as much value as 300 and 350 with fast hitch.

The Super A and 140 are much the same, worth more money than a 100 or 130, who knows why.

I once thought I'd like to install a good 3 point hitch on my 560 that already had fast hitch. The fast hitch had become so loose it was little value as a drawbar. I could rebulid pins and holes, and 12 months later it was same thing all over. I set out to find a 706 type drawbar and hitch links, to use with fast hitch rockshaft and lift cylinder. A fabricator and I speced this all out, bear in mind these tractors were quite new then, not a lot of junkers around, thus we were going to fabricate the drawbar part and buy new lower links and top link from IH. Our estimates were close to $1,500. Now I'm not talking a mickey mouse affair. This drawbar was going to do trailing type pto machines and the 3 point was going to be good enough to plow with. I never did build the hitch.

At that time, a new 656 diesel could be bought for $4,200. I've seen countless number of folks do tricks like this, spend thousands on old junk that is never going to work. You take folks right today fixing up an 1950s tractors with an aftermarket 3 point hitch, by the time there all done they could have had a late 60s tractor with factory 3 point and the proper configuration that he doesn't have to crawl over that 3 point or fast hitch to get on and off the tractor.

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georgeky

02-13-2007 18:28:20




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-13-2007 15:30:03  
Hugh, I agree that it dont make much sense To do some of these things. My point was not that these things could or should be done. It was that people should be more civil to one another. The farm doctor threatened to kick Sonny Days butt over a question about a fasthitch on a Super H. What seems like a dumb idea to some may not be to others. I thought his reply was totally uncalled for. It doesnt reflect well on his character.

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Hugh MacKay

02-13-2007 18:49:30




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to georgeky, 02-13-2007 18:28:20  
George: I agree with your point, but then Doc. didn't get to stay around very long either. I knew when I first saw that, it wouldn't be there very long. Kim doesn't tolerate that nonsense. He was back again tonight, and Kim gave him the boots again. Before she did that, I was able to point out to him that Sonny had a very legitimate and sensible question, afterall Super C had factory fast hitch, SMTA could be fitted with fast hitch. To the novice, why not Super H? I suggested that he (Doc) only proved one thing, that being he is a horse's posterior. I stand by that statment.

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georgeky

02-13-2007 19:48:10




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-13-2007 18:49:30  
Hugh, I wish I had got back in time to see what he had to say tonight, We had a old cow down that I had to go check on, I will probably have to put her down tomorrow,but anyhow bless Kims heart.



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Hugh MacKay

02-13-2007 19:57:46




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to georgeky, 02-13-2007 19:48:10  
George: He was actually quite mild tonight, that is compared with last night.



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gene bender

02-13-2007 09:42:09




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to georgeky, 02-13-2007 08:51:43  
Well now then there just how do you put a fast hitch on a straight H cause the rest of us would like to see one. Just where do these live?



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Wardner

02-13-2007 10:57:11




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to gene bender, 02-13-2007 09:42:09  
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I am not sure why anyone would put a fast hitch on a H. Why not trade it for a later IH model? It does make sense to retrofit a fast hitch to a SMTA and many have done it including myself.

Having said that, I put a fast hitch on a 650D. The bail is from a 706, the rockshaft and links from a 560, and the rest I made. I fitted two 3.5" x 8" IH cylinders. I have kept the patterns and I am now taking orders for the heavy duty attachment. Of course, I don't expect any; particularly after you see the sticker price.

Gene, you are welcome to look at mine should you travel to Eastern MA.

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D Slater

02-13-2007 10:16:00




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to gene bender, 02-13-2007 09:42:09  
There's M tractors around with brackets made to bolt to axle housing bolts,then the fast hitch with traction control is bolted to brackets. I have a set of myself. I'm sure a 350 style 2 point could be and probably is added to a H that same way somewhere.



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georgeky

02-13-2007 10:33:58




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to D Slater, 02-13-2007 10:16:00  
Hi, D Slater. I am glad someone else has seen this done. Just because you havent seen something does not mean it doesnt exist or cant be done. I seen a straight A with a Chevy starter and ring gear rigged up on the pto. You engaged the pto started the tractor then disengaged pto, it works like a charm. A friend of mine still uses that old tractor to plow tobacco with. It also has Chavy power steering pump for hydraulic lift.

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Steven@AZ

02-13-2007 11:11:23




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 Re: forum etiquette in reply to georgeky, 02-13-2007 10:33:58  
This A has a Chevy 305 engine in it!

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