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Decals on MTA - question

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migraine

02-11-2007 21:51:36




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Just got a 1954 Super MTA serial 65032 S with all correct Z castings mostly Feb and March dates. The side mta decal does not have the wings and tail like the brochure shows and like I have seen on all other tractors. It just has the circle with M-TA all within the circle. Anybody shed some light what this is or were there some produced this way? It has the TA and Live pto and power steering and added 3 pt which needs to go away. Tractor has never been painted and bought from the original owner's widow. Thanks for any help and information. Migraine

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Jim Becker

02-12-2007 09:23:56




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 Re: Decals on MTA - question in reply to migraine, 02-11-2007 21:51:36  
Maybe the tractor was built as a TA delete and the TA got installed by the dealer? If so, they would have also had to stamp the S on the serial plate. That seems unlikely, but such things did happen.



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chadd

02-12-2007 09:05:40




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 Re: Decals on MTA - question in reply to migraine, 02-11-2007 21:51:36  
So when he purchased it, it was brand new and had never been owned by anyone else? If so, do you know how long it sat on the lot? I had read somewhere that tractors that used to sit outside on dealer lots would tend to have the decals fade. Because of this, IH released a package of decals that had red backgrounds and were not translucent. The dealer would then cover up the old decal so the buyer couldn't tell it had sat outside for a long time. Another possibility is that it needed to be touched up or repainted, and that set was the only one available at the dealer, and they didn't want to order a different set. Only the tractors with the TA deleted were supposed to get the sticker. Its hard to say what transpired to give you that one.

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randy hall

02-12-2007 06:20:57




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 Re: Decals on MTA - question in reply to migraine, 02-11-2007 21:51:36  
your tractor was repainted at one time and the person used what was available at the time. ih quit suppling super mta decals by the early seventies so the last ones to get used up would have been the round ones. i have a set of these that came from a dealer closout in the eighties.



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CNKS

02-12-2007 06:08:58




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 Re: Decals on MTA - question in reply to migraine, 02-11-2007 21:51:36  
IH did not always use the right decals. If equipped with TA, it is supposed to have the wing, if no TA just the round emblem. Nearly all should have the wing, as the TA was the main selling point and IH wanted to advertise that. If it has not been repainted, then IH messed up. I have never owned a SMTA, but was 16 when they came out. All the advertising at the time showed the wing. I drove one about half a day in 1955-56? on loan while our H was being repaired, It had the wing.

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City-Boy McCoy

02-12-2007 03:47:58




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 Re: Decals on MTA - question in reply to migraine, 02-11-2007 21:51:36  
Hi, Migraine. This is little help, but the only SMTA tractor I ever saw back in the 50's had the circles without the side wings and tail. I saw the wings for the first time about two years ago, when I became interested again in the letter series Farmalls, and started looking at books. Then a few months ago, I was told no wings meant T/A was ordered deleted, but from what you are saying, that is not the case. Not much help, but that is all I know.... mike

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migraine

02-12-2007 08:33:28




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 Re: Decals on MTA - question in reply to City-Boy McCoy, 02-12-2007 03:47:58  
Thanks for the replies. I will try to research this tractor some more and find out what it is. It is quite straight and could be brought back to original with some work so may need some parts to do that. The engine, ta and pto and brakes are all in good working order and it did fine on the dyno Friday but needs fuel line and carb work to get up to full power. Another project in an already long list but thats what I enjoy. Migraine

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iaGary

02-12-2007 09:36:21




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 Re: Decals on MTA - question in reply to migraine, 02-12-2007 08:33:28  
I'm telling you migraine we need to see pictures of that MTA and your other projects.LOL

Gary



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