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Remote Hydraulics on a 340U

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PaulW_NJ

02-10-2007 11:36:08




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I am trying to add a pair of remote hydraulics connectors on the back end of my 340U. It has two HydroTouch valves bolted along with the Fasthitch valve and relief valve all together into a manifold, under the dash. Each HydroTouch control valve is piped to a pair of connectors on the sides of the tractor. These will both be used to connect a loader.

Each HydroTouch valve also has two pipe plugs underneath that close off hydraulic ports. According to the Parts Manual, the original IH remote hydraulics option had hoses tied into a pair of these bottom ports. Here’s my question: does anyone know if those bottom ports are live high and low pressure, or are they controlled by the HydroTouch valve? That is, would I have to hold that HydroTouch valve down to send pressure to the remote output, or would it always be “hot”? I’m planning to use the remote to power a log splitter. Just trying to figure out what I need to do.

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Janicholson

02-10-2007 11:43:42




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 Re: Remote Hydraulics on a 340U in reply to PaulW_NJ, 02-10-2007 11:36:08  
This issue has reciently been chewed on (within the last 10 pages) several important ingredients were listed. "Use search for" at the top to access the archives. Put in 340U remote hydraulic. JimN



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PaulW_NJ

02-10-2007 12:13:55




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 Re: Remote Hydraulics on a 340U in reply to Janicholson, 02-10-2007 11:43:42  
Same project, different issue and question



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TDK

02-10-2007 20:32:42




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 Re: Remote Hydraulics on a 340U in reply to PaulW_NJ, 02-10-2007 12:13:55  
Ain't it a shame you can't get a straight answer to a simple question !!! It's a good question that deserves an answer even if it doesn't work a wood splitter. Paul. I sent you an email.



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Nat 2

02-10-2007 17:41:12




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 Re: Remote Hydraulics on a 340U in reply to PaulW_NJ, 02-10-2007 12:13:55  
I think he's referring to the part about, "Don't bother trying to run a log splitter with the 340's hydraulics, you'll drive yourself insane waiting for it."

However, if the original poster insists on going ahead anyway, I would advise him not to bother asking why the hydraulics are slow. They WILL be slow, slower than dirt, slower than molasses, slower than your bowels after eating a pound of cheese, even in perfect working condition when they try to drive a 4"x24" log splitter hydraulic cylinder.

That said, the ports SHOULD be "working" ports for one of the two Hydra Touch valves.

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PaulW_NJ

02-10-2007 19:13:36




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 Re: Remote Hydraulics on a 340U in reply to Nat 2, 02-10-2007 17:41:12  
Well, I figure before I invest $400 in a PTO pump I"m going to try the tractor"s pump first for the price of a couple hoses. I know it will be slower, but then so am I. If it"s as bad as you suggest, and I"ve been well warned so I won"t be surprised if it is, I can always bite the bullet and add the PTO pump.

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Wardner

02-10-2007 21:33:50




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 Re: Remote Hydraulics on a 340U in reply to PaulW_NJ, 02-10-2007 19:13:36  
"That is, would I have to hold that HydroTouch valve down to send pressure to the remote output, or would it always be “hot”"

You could use a bungy cord.

What do you get for $400? Would that be the 10gpm or the 20gpm? I would get the 20gpm but I think they cost more than $400.

You have other options, I think. Don't utilities have a bolster that allow for the mounting of a pump in line with the crankshaft pulley. Some tractors have a crankshaft pulley with four bolts threads for mounting a splinded flange that accepts a short driveshaft. The other end goes into a pump that attaches to the front of the bolster with two or four bolts. The driveshaft passes through the crank hole. The pump can be physically smaller (and cheaper) because it turns four times faster.

You might also locate a "step-up" PTO gear box similar to what is used on PTO generators. Some generators turn 1800 but most whip around at 3600rpm. A pump attached to the output of the gear box would be small and cheap. A high hydraulic flow to your splitter means you can run your tractor engine at a slow speed. I run my 20gpm pto Prince pump, that pushes a 4" cylinder, at 900 engine rpms. "If you OVER build it, you will ----". Sorry, that was disgusting.

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Janicholson

02-10-2007 21:27:03




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 Re: Remote Hydraulics on a 340U in reply to PaulW_NJ, 02-10-2007 19:13:36  
I ment no disrespect. I believed it had been covered before sorry. To be quickest, replace the hose ends on the hitch cylinder with quick disconnects to allow the trial of the splitter. I think it will work well enough to do a reasonable job. The professional splitter would have less patience, but for home use on a 3 cord pile I see no issue. JimN



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TDK

02-10-2007 22:12:06




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 JimN in reply to Janicholson, 02-10-2007 21:27:03  
Jim, sorry. No offense was meant to you. Your answer was "right on", as this was just discussed last week.



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