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Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts

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Christie

02-06-2007 10:51:16




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I'm new to tractors, so I need help to understand mine.There are two levers near the throttle, can you explain there purpose. I moved them trying to see what they do and now my Farmall C keeps stalling, will run for about 3 or 4 mintues. One looks like it's goes to the Govenor?? (verry front of tractor right side if sitting on the tractor).The left side goes to to the box right in front of the battery. Can someone give me a name for these parts and a bit of an explaination of how they function there purpose? Thanks for any info.

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don's superc

02-07-2007 09:02:13




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Christie, 02-06-2007 10:51:16  
Christie, about 3 years ago I bought a super-c and had a similar problem. The tractor would start and run for 3 or 4 minutes, then just quit. This tractor had an inline fuel filter comming into the carborator. It was very dirty, fuel would run through this filter. But when I blew on it with my mouth, holding my hand over the other end I couldn't believe the dirt that came out on my hand. An air compressor would work better if you have one. I haven't had a problem since. Sounds like your tractor is fuel starved. Good luck.

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Janicholson

02-07-2007 09:57:26




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to don's superc , 02-07-2007 09:02:13  
Unless the filter is designed for a gravety feed system (NAPA makes them) it will cause endless grief. None is preferable if the sediment bowl is cleaned periodically. JimN



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riverbend

02-06-2007 18:50:33




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Christie, 02-06-2007 10:51:16  
The Operator's Manual is still available from your local IH (CaseNewHolland ?) dealer or from binder books. It tells what everything does and how to take care of the tractor.

What is all the black iron work in front of the throttle and hydraulic levers ?

Greg



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Christie

02-06-2007 11:18:38




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Christie, 02-06-2007 10:51:16  
Also can you tell me where the Governor is located? and the function of the Governor?
Because again the one linkage goes to the very front of the engine which I belive is the governor



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Nat 2

02-06-2007 11:37:14




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Christie, 02-06-2007 11:18:38  
The governor is located on the front left corner of the engine.

The "throttle lever" actually goes to the governor. You control the governor, and the governor controls the throttle.

What the governor does is "govern" the speed of the engine. It tries to keep the engine speed at your chosen setting all the time, as the tractor goes up hills, down hills, for example.



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Janicholson

02-06-2007 11:46:57




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Nat 2, 02-06-2007 11:37:14  
Nat, (and Christy) The governor on a C is located on the right front of the engine. it has a lever controlled by the throttle lever on the Quadrant by the steering post, and a shaft anf bellcrank that goes to the carb side(left) connected by an exposed link to the carb. JimN



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Christie

02-06-2007 12:29:40




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Janicholson, 02-06-2007 11:46:57  
Jim N, Thanks for explaination this is what I was trying to say, thanks for clearing that up.
So back to my question could moving these levers cause the stalling of the engine?
I have posted a photo (to located click Galleries/Tractor photos/Farmall C 1950)my question is related to the two black levers in the photo Thanks Christie



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Janicholson

02-06-2007 13:53:45




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Christie, 02-06-2007 12:29:40  
No problem with the description.
The levers are called touch control levers. They are linked with rods to the hydraulic resivoir/power box in front of the operator area. These levers are position controls for two mechanical arms that stick out the left side of the tractor, and one that sticks out the right side. thr right hand arm, and the inside left arm are controlled by the right lever, the left most arm is controlled by the left lever. These arms are designed to controll attachments and equipment for lifting positioning, and directing their actions. They are very powerful and can move several hundred pounds of force. Most of the special tillage tools, mowers, plows, cultivators, and attachments are attached with linkage rods to these arms. The levers are hydraulic controls. The position of the levers controls valves in the system to which they are attached. The valves cause hydraulic fluid (HYTRAN Fluid) to enter hydraulic cylinders within the box. The fluid moves the piston until the arm reaches a specific spot of its travel as set by the location of the lever within its travel. The small sliding stops on the lever quadrant, are for presetting a depth, or setting so the operator can just move the lever against the stop to position an attachment to its correct set depth (as adjusted by operator experience). Levers rearward, arms rearward, levers forward arms forward.
If these levers are (actually) causing the engine to slow and stop, then there is serious problems within the hydraulic box. There may be a very different reason for the tractor quitting. (more likely)
If there is a location of the levers that allow the engine to run, that would be a minor miracle. I think the engine is stopping from fuel restriction caused by junk and flakes of rust in the fuel system. With the fuel shutoff turned on under the tank, remove the drain plug from the carb bowl with a tin can under it to see how fast fuel runs out. It should come out fast enough to fill a one pound coffee can in less than two minutes. If it does not there is restriction in the flow and that is what causes the engine to stop. cleaning the sediment bowl/screen, the stem into the tank above the bowl, the shutoff valve, the line to the carb, the strainer in the fitting where it attaches to the carb, and the needle and seat in the carb are all to be cleaned and checked for full flow. Look in the Search For box with the words to find out what has been written on the topic. Keep talking to us, we be friendly. JimN
If the engine is running correctly, the hydraulic system will cause it to make more noise, but it will not die, even if the hydro unit is trying to lift more than it can. Check out the fuel system, and see if what I have said makes sense.

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Keith-OR

02-06-2007 13:43:11




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 Christie's Picture in reply to Christie, 02-06-2007 12:29:40  
Christie hope this will help.

The shorter non painted lever is throttle, two black painter levers on left are for Hydraulic touch control.HTH

Keith & Shawn

Christie's C
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little john

02-06-2007 11:26:45




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Christie, 02-06-2007 11:18:38  
The governor is like a mechanical cruise control. You set the desired engine speed with the throttle lever, and then the governor will try to maintain that speed by opening and closing the throttle in the carburator.



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Jim Isler

02-06-2007 11:08:53




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Christie, 02-06-2007 10:51:16  
Dear Christie,

The levers you talk about are for the hydraulics, and if they stall your engine, there's probably a blockage in the pump or lines. Operating these may slow the engine until the governor adds gas, but shouldn't stall.

I suggest you order a parts manual, which shows everything in an exploded drawings. Also, an owner's manual would be an asset. Try Walt's tractors. www.----- --

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Christie

02-06-2007 11:15:20




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Jim Isler, 02-06-2007 11:08:53  
Jim, When you say that they are for the hydraulics, what would they do in repect to the hydraulics?
Thanks Christie
and yes I'm looking at getting a manual



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Nat 2

02-06-2007 11:32:15




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 Re: Farmall C 1950 Name and function of parts in reply to Christie, 02-06-2007 11:15:20  
There should be THREE levers. One is the governor control (throttle). The other two are for the Touch Control hydraulics.

Look closely at the "box in front of the battery." Notice that it has arms sticking out of it that look like they rotate? That is the Touch Control unit. It is for lifting and lowering implements like plows, or cultivators.

The levers make the arms rock back and forth. If they don't, and it sounds like they don't, you've got a serious problem with the hydraulics that will need to be repaired.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I would not touch that tractor again until I've done a LOT of reading if I were you. This is for your safety, and to prevent damaging the tractor (repairs are expensive).

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