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JayWalt

02-05-2007 06:56:17




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Well after getting everything around for my external filter conversion, I somehow lost the original filter pipe. I have torn everywhere apart!! Have looked fornearly 5 hours total, I cant look anymore, theres no where to look and I just get really teed off. I do not recall taking it anywhere but the dealership, and even then I decided not to take it in with me0, so it doubfult I left it some place. Now here the kicker, I cant just use a piece of bllack iron pipe bnecause the original have machine threads (non tapered), and used an oring to seal. I would just use a tapered pipe threaded pipe because I have used them like that before ( in a nontapered hole) and they seal up just fine. HOWEVER the hole is no deep enough before it turns a 90 and the tapered pipe just bottoms out before it is tight, so this wont work.
Maybe someone out there has a toasted hydraulic filter that fits a 300u and they bought a new one and could donate the old piece of pipe from the old filter? I'd be more then happy to pay the cost of shipping. Also, another bad thing is I dont know how long the original was. I could guesstimate, but once i put that cover on, its not gonna be fun taking it back off and making a new gasket.

I thought maybe I did ake it in somewhere, so I called the dealer where I got a few gaskets that day and inquired about the filter, I called TSC and Ace hardware. All three say they havent seen anything like that. I thought maybe mennards, but first the place is huge, i doubt they have any collective lost and abandoned area, and I'm 99.999% sure I didnt take it in there, as I only took the new filter assembly and the suction hose to get some fittings.
The pipe also seems to be an odball size. The inside of the hole in the res cover is 1" at the inside of the threads, so the pipe has to be like "1/4 of an inch form theouside measurement, making the pipe about 7/8" ID orsome crap. =\
Any ideas?

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Wardner

02-05-2007 12:10:15




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 Re: What to do now... in reply to JayWalt, 02-05-2007 06:56:17  
Have you thought about going to a hydraulic shop? You probably need a SAE O-ring thread. That is the same count and pitch as a machine thread found on a bolt. JIC fittings also use machine threads.

You can take comfort in the fact that if you live long enough and continue to play with equipment, you will have buckets of used fittings laying around that can replace whatever you lose. Judging from picures of your shop, you are well on your way to self-sufficiency.

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JayWalt

02-05-2007 12:34:01




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 Re: What to do now... in reply to Wardner, 02-05-2007 12:10:15  
yep, got enough black iron to plumb a few houses, thing is they are ALL tapered pipe thread.



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JayWalt

02-05-2007 08:15:44




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 Re: What to do now... in reply to JayWalt, 02-05-2007 06:56:17  
if I only had a lathe!!!

Now, MAYBE the local plumbing shop could do it relatively cheap. I dont know... I'll figure out something...



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Janicholson

02-05-2007 07:25:36




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 Re: What to do now... in reply to JayWalt, 02-05-2007 06:56:17  
Jay No issue, Use the tapered thread and cut off 1/4" or so to allow tightening. Put a electrical jamb nut on it befor cutting to allow the threads to be kept good, or use a needle file to clean em up. Peace on Earth, JimN



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JayWalt

02-05-2007 07:57:10




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 Re: What to do now... in reply to Janicholson, 02-05-2007 07:25:36  
thought of that jim. Even thought of welding a piece in after i did tht since i dont know if i can trust it to seal air tight, but I refuse to do any unneccessary welding on cast parts since most arent made anymore. It tore me apart to cut a spot in the main suction tubes, but the one end has been brazed anyways, and to me its an upgrade.

Now I'm not going to be able to do what u suggest, without worring about it sucking air, if I dont use some sort of sealant. The good thing is that i can change the filter easily. From experience, if properly used, sealants such as teflon tape is not an issue. I used it on about 20 fittings and when i took out the filter that was messed up, there was only a very very small piece stuck on it under a bunch of dirt, so it was probably there long before i touched it. The key is to start the tape about 2 threads in and DO not let it over the end of the pipe. I'll figure out something, but if someone out there has one, i'd much much rather use that.

For now I'm gonna work on fixing this house amp for a customer and do my taxes, then maybe look at working on it, dunno quite yet.

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Janicholson

02-05-2007 08:06:20




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 Re: What to do now... in reply to JayWalt, 02-05-2007 07:57:10  
Jay,
Cut a conduit coupling (straight threads) down by about 1/2" then machine in a groove for an "O" ring. Put into it a straight thread from a male conduit fitting, and let it extend only to the depth needed. The groove will compress the "O" ring into the threads making a seal, and the otherend will be able to be screwed into for the intake elbow, or what ever you need. Just Ideas, JimN



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