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Old H working out its stiffness...

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Matt Page

02-01-2007 09:10:44




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Well the old H has been back from the grave and going through the motions daily now for about three weeks, pulling a trailer with alfalpha bailes through the mud to feed the cows... Put about an hour a day on it. Some issues... now the clutch makes a a metalic shuffling sound when its slipping to engage in higher gears.. it was stuck before resurection... but made no noise after it broke free. guess now its toast??? No way its just hard and rusty or something? And for the life of me I can't get the thing to idle smoothly, well it did once, day before yesterday when backing it into the barn I tweeked the idle screw and it leveled out. Went to start it yesterday and it didn't want to (handcrank) as easily as usual and then didn't run good until I tweeked it back where it had been??? Nature of the beast? sure runs out good. Matt.

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voager 213

02-01-2007 12:45:26




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 Re: Old H working out its stiffness... in reply to Matt Page, 02-01-2007 09:10:44  
i put brand new guages on mine and never really say it move after 45 minutes of running in like 60's so i wouldnt worry



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RustyFarmall

02-01-2007 11:09:18




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 Re: Old H working out its stiffness... in reply to Matt Page, 02-01-2007 09:10:44  
Way too many things unknown here to give any direct answers. If it does need a new clutch it's still not the end of the world, in fact replacing a clutc is probably one of the easier and less costly things you could do. The rough idling problem could be a dirty carburetor, might be a worn distributor, could need a valve job. Might cost some money, but still not the end of the world. If you're getting by with it the way it is, I'd let 'er go until you don't need it everyday.

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Matt Page

02-01-2007 11:42:33




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 Re: Old H working out its stiffness... in reply to RustyFarmall, 02-01-2007 11:09:18  
Had the magneto rebuilt and I did the carburetor... This tractor came out of scrap piles and hasn't run in a long time... Maybe I'll recheck the valve adjustment now... Never had a clutch go out, does it stop grabbing or do the "metalic shuffle" like mine?



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RustyFarmall

02-01-2007 12:05:31




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 Re: Old H working out its stiffness... in reply to Matt Page, 02-01-2007 11:42:33  
Usually the first sign of a clutch letting go is slipping during a hard pull. The metallic sound you are hearing might be the throw out bearing, but if it was then you should be hearing it anytime the clutch pedal is depressed.

When you hear that metallic sound, do you feel it in the pedal as well?



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Matt Page

02-01-2007 12:37:50




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 Re: Old H working out its stiffness... in reply to RustyFarmall, 02-01-2007 12:05:31  
No Rusty, its smooth as silk with the pedal down. Just as the clutch makes contact in the higher gears when its easing in instead of just dumping it, its a shuffle sound. Hasn't slipped at all. I'm wondering and hoping maybe its just rusty and dirty and hasn't been slipped enough to clean off... Another question while we're on H's. I put a new thermostat in it, but the thing hasn't warmed up yet... Been pretty cool though. Once on a warm day in the 70's after feeding it was in the middle of "cold". Do they take that long to warm up or is my new 'stat not right??? New guage too by the way, and I'm pretty sure its working because I can put my hand on the water jacket and radiator and its just warm.

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Janicholson

02-01-2007 18:19:34




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 Re: Old H working out its stiffness... in reply to Matt Page, 02-01-2007 12:37:50  
On the Temp question, I know these tractors run cold even with a known good Tstat. In my opinon the bypass around the tStat is too big and allows too much coolant to go around it. It may have been a cheap insurance design when Tstats were mediocre and failure prone. I have thought that blocking 80 % of the bypass port would be a good Idea, but I am in MN, and the tractor is in IN. Putting a Tstst in the upper hose, and clamping it in place with a SS hose clamp on the outside of the hose would make it warmer. (don't use two Tstats, and do put it in close to the water outlet at the head with the radiator to this side sign where it belongs. JimN

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