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OT: Farmallhal, a new job for our tractors.

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Hugh MacKay

01-29-2007 17:49:04




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Hal, I just happened to pick up the envelope from the letter you sent me. I notice you mailed it AIR MAIL on Jan. 17th. I received it on Jan. 26th, that is 9 days. Mapquest tells me you are 746.8 miles away. 82 miles per day via air mail, why if we counted around the clock that is only 3.46 mph. I didn't know aircraft could stay afloat, travelling that slow.

The way I've got it figured, our Farmall 140s could make a 100 miles per day, running 10 hours. looking at the weight of this letter a Farmall 140 should haul 10,000 letters. The postal service charged you $0.63. That would be $6,300. per trip, one way for the 140.

Now, I know I forgot the charges for administration, I forgot we will not be allowed on the Interstate with a 140 and I doubt if there are 10,000 letters every 9 days between Strathroy ON and Rollo MO.

Folks I raise this as people generally think, I'll get it off via air mail, it will be much faster. Generally that is true, however when that air mail crosses the Canada-US border that theory goes to the wind. I've been mailing back and forth with US citizens for years. Land mail has always been just as fast as air mail, and since 9-11, land mail will be 40% faster between the two countries. Just a little tip for you would be mailers.

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Marty Johns

01-30-2007 17:52:27




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 Re: OT: Farmallhal, a new job for our tractors. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-29-2007 17:49:04  
I never did figure out the postal service, 35 yrs ago, I was stationed in N.Carolina and it took 3 days for letters to or from Pa. 5 yrs later I was in Arizona and it turned into a 2 day delivery! figure it out Nc. 500 miles vs AZ. 3000 miles!



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Dave Sherburne NY

01-30-2007 15:11:04




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 Re: OT: Farmallhal, a new job for our tractors. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-29-2007 17:49:04  
Slow day Hugh????



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Hugh MacKay

01-30-2007 15:51:20




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 Re: OT: Farmallhal, a new job for our tractors. in reply to Dave Sherburne NY, 01-30-2007 15:11:04  
Dave: Yes, as a matter of fact you're right. For years and years and years I had a full time job. Now, I` only have a part time job. It's called the golden years or retirement, but I'm not ready for it.

I've found YT to be quite dull this winter, doesn't seem to be the good old nuts and bolts, discuss it type of questions, like we once had. The numbers of questions that seem to go unresolved are on the increase, or at least it seems that way to me. It's close to 7 years on here for me now, I've heard the same questions many times. You tend to think, why don't these folks go to the archives. That is not as easy as some folks would have you believe, so many tractor problems can have different titles, yet they are all correct questions. Computers don't do a good job of sorting that. It's clearly time for me to find something else.

I thought about getting couple hundred acres and do some small time farming. However just look at the collection of old iron Allan has. He must like grease better than I do. To go at it with all new iron, one would need 5,000 acres today. No, it's got to be simpler than that.

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wayne from wi

01-29-2007 20:43:36




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 Re: OT: Farmallhal, a new job for our tractors. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-29-2007 17:49:04  
I gotta wonder about Missouri postal system. Last Tuesday I brought a load of hay from Wisconsin to a farmer in Marshfield,MO. I dropped the farmer's check for the load off at the Lebanon truck stop Tuesday afternoon and the hay guy in Wiconsin didn't get it until today(Monday). I reloaded back to Wisconsin, unloaded, went home Friday and Saturday, and delivered another load of hay down here today. I would hope the post office could do better than that.

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farmallhal

01-29-2007 18:36:07




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 Re: OT: Farmallhal, a new job for our tractors. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-29-2007 17:49:04  
You sure have that task figured out but don't think there is enough mail between the two cities to justify even a 140. I just gave it to a postal clerk at the post office as I didn't know what international postage is between these two countries. I think all first class mail in this country is flown now if any distance is involved. Sometimes it will take the better part of a week to get a letter to a town just down the road less then 30 miles. First, the letter goes to our local post office and then is sent to another location to be sorted along with other mail for the city to where it is to be delivered. Then the letter goes from the sorting facility to the destination city for another route sorting and then to the carrier for delivery. I don't think letters mailed in Rolla going to Rolla are sorted at the local post office any longer. There used to be a mail box in the post office for local mail but that has been gone for at least a couple of years. One thing for sure here in central Missouri the postal workers are the nicest group of folks you will ever be in contact with. Every one of them is very pleasant and will help you with a smile and no task is too much bother. I guess the system we have in place for handling the mail must be more cost effective then timely. Thanks for the post and it must be cold up there to be noticing such things. I was inside most of the day as well and plan to so again tomorrow. Get out early and feed the animals and call it a day on these cold and windy days. Stay warm, Hal

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Hugh MacKay

01-30-2007 03:30:11




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 Re: OT: Farmallhal, a new job for our tractors. in reply to farmallhal, 01-29-2007 18:36:07  
Hal: I guess I should have thought out this thread a bit more. I never intended it to be postal service bashing. I think with the onslot of e mail and courier companies, the postal service both here and in the US have fighting to retain their market share. They probably deal with less volume today, than 10 years ago.

After posting it hit me, this is also a bit of swipe at a guy like you, retired from Boeing. Somehow I doubt that one bothered you a whole lot.

I did intend this thread to be a satirical look at how big business and big systems have not made our services more efficient. Somehow I believe I could make money running from here to MO at $6,300. per trip with my 140. However I doubt if there is anyway around busy traffic locations and Interstate crossings of big rivers.

My intention was to remind folks mailing cross border, air mail, even though it costs more is actually slower that land mail. This is particularly true since 9-11, and I expect you'll find mail going onboard a plane gets just about as close scrutiny as we do. I rather doubt if there is as much mail going air as there once was. I know there are numerous crossings of US and Canadian mail trucks cross border daily. Not small trucks either, but 53 footers and trains. I could see those 26' to 30' train trailers being exceptionally useful.

My real point on this matter was don't go air mail. In the past 5 years I discovered all air mail cross border takes 8-10 days. I've had land mail both ways go in as little as 3 days even as far as IA and never more than 7 days regardlees of distance. This is the one I wanted to make folks aware of.

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farmallhal

01-30-2007 08:28:17




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 Re: OT: Farmallhal, a new job for our tractors. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-30-2007 03:30:11  
Hugh, I certainly didn't take your note to be postal service bashing. I think you are just house bound like we are down here and thinking too hard. I really don't think there is even a US air mail postal rate any longer. I do know it is available for international mail though. I rarely send anything out of the country but did have an uncle in Hawaii I used to send smoked salmon too every Christmas. That I believe was sent first class which meant it flew. When there was a parcel of some weight involved you had a choice of air (which cost more) or boat as parcel post. I usually flew everything to him and it probably went at a class called Priority Mail but again this was still in this country. I spent a lot of time in Canada when I lived in the Seattle area mainly on fishing trips into the interior of British Columbia. It was always a pleasure to visit your country and I met some very wonderful folks in the backwoods. You have better beer and beanne weenees could be found almost anywhere. I always brought back my stash of them whenever visiting Canada. Actually, Mt. St. Helens erupted when I was on a spring fly fishing trip in Canada and didn't even know about it until I crossed the border a week or so later coming back home and the customs folks informed me it happened during the time I was there. Well again today I plan on staying around the house as it is just 10 F and wind chill is -10 F and the animals are already taken care of. Was quite cold out doing the chores and just can't see a reason to be out today. Take care up there and stay warm. Hal

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