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C-153 ID

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BN PULLER

01-29-2007 17:16:06




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Going to look at a old combine this weekend The owner doesn't remember what model it is as its been sitting for quite some time was inside but has been out for a couple of years ran good when parked. Doesn't know what engine is in it but says it looks like the engine in his A. I've never seen a C-153 but from what I've read on here it would make my BN more competive. So what would I need to look for?

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steelfronts

01-30-2007 05:31:12




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 Re: C-153 ID in reply to BN PULLER, 01-29-2007 17:16:06  
Bn The block will say C153 on it for the ID. After that you will have to drill the crank for a pilot bushing and mess around up front with the radiator connections. It will make a real little monster out of your BN.We have done this several times with C's and B's. Once the B with the 153 pulled 3 16 trailer plow same speed as an M. Didnt do this too long tho not wanting to wreck the trans. We loaded the oversized tires and two sets of weights.i should add that increased rpm really increases the ground speed

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Hugh MacKay

01-30-2007 04:39:03




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 Re: C-153 ID in reply to BN PULLER, 01-29-2007 17:16:06  
To start with, i doubt if your going to experience 45 hp from a C-153. I bought a 504 with a farm, 1,500 hours, and just had a fresh engine rebuild. It had trouble matching my old 35hp Farmall 300 on a 3x16 plow, and believe me that old 300 had seen better days at the time.

What you should look for? Good question, try starting with drive line parts and you should have a good selection of final drive castings as well as torque tubes. I've broke those castings with my 130, stock C-123 engine. Oh, by the way, that casting breakage occured pulling with front end very light or off ground.

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CLIFF S

01-29-2007 18:11:42




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 Re: C-153 ID in reply to BN PULLER, 01-29-2007 17:16:06  
203 combine! If you put one in you better get some larger tires! There 45 HP to start with and small tires would be hard to hook up!



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CLIFF S

01-30-2007 05:12:36




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 Re: C-153 ID in reply to CLIFF S, 01-29-2007 18:11:42  
Hugh most of the C-153 that are stock and tuned up in Farmall Cs are Pulling Here are Dynoing 45 Hp thats why i said it! When they enlarge the piston i have been told of 75 or so and with stroke 100+ Now i wouldn't think of putting more than a 123 from a Super C in a BN with a O/S kit like my user Super C and thats 31 HP and theres more HP to be Gained there like my Puller Has Ask Shaggy!



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Hugh MacKay

01-30-2007 07:02:57




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 Re: C-153 ID in reply to CLIFF S, 01-30-2007 05:12:36  
Cliff: I bought 16 new or very near new Farmalls in my day. By near new I'm talking less than 2000 hours. Of those 16 the only poor engine I got was a C-153 in a 504. Believe me it was junk, at 1,500 hours it wouldn't hold a candle to my 35 hp Farmall 300. When I bought the 504 with a farm, it was at the IH dealers having it's first engine rebuild. They sent it home all tested out on dyno, telling us it was A-1. The vendor wanted to operate it couple of days, just to satisfy himself, he got value for money. After 2 days on NH 460 haybine he advised me not to keep the 504 tractor very long. He said, "It has never measured up since new, and they have not corrected the problem." He had traded a 300U on that 504.

To satisfy myself I took both 504 and 300 to the field and used both on a 3x16 trailer plow. I plowed for a couple hours with each tractor. In the end it was back to 300 to finish the days plowing. By the way, at that time 300 probably had 15,000 hours on it, and was probably 2,500 hours into it's 4th set of pistons and sleeves.

I've heard countless other stories about C-153 engines, and none of them good. I'd have to vote it IH's all time poorest engine. Now, just maybe you tractor pullers get along fine with it, but remember you clock damn few hours. I thought the 504 was great the first few rounds with the plow, but once it got a couple hours working heat, it wasn't worth a damn. I've probably seen a 125,000 hours of tractor time up and down my fields, yet noting as poor as that C-153.

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CLIFF S

01-30-2007 08:33:17




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 Re: C-153 ID in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-30-2007 07:02:57  
The 504 Must Kno't keep the engine cool enough to keep the power up! Your Right Tractor Pullers Don't have a lot of time to heat them up going down the track! H-350 have a lot of room around the cylinders to keep them cool and the C-153 Don't, As for the Queston of putting a C-153 in a BN,A,B Well its a bad Idea! And i agree it will break things! A C/230 is Much Stronger and better suited for that kind of power! I have an 39 A that i pull with Tisco 3 1/8 pop ups in it and its 25 HP when i put it together and i am guessing 27 or so know and it pull 3500lbs class with 11.2x24 tires and dose real good But wont hold a candle to the Super Cs & VACs most of the time Here! Shaggy has a better head than I do and i bet what he has is all you would need in an BN! We will Find out in tallmadge what shaggy has! I will have my Super C puller with the stock block shaggy talked about there in 3250B to keep up my points!

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IH2444

01-30-2007 07:51:20




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 Re: C-153 ID in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-30-2007 07:02:57  
I have an 1968 2444 with C153. No complaints, no rebuilds yet and still going strong.
But on the engine, why not go with a d154 ? A bit coldhearted to start but torquey little engines...



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