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JayWalt

01-17-2007 16:05:32




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Hey guys. Dad built this house in 72. Our well pump is 34 years old. It's never given us a lick of trouble. The pump housing is starting to corroded, but the pump is fine. I'm hoping it lasts anothjer 34 years, but not likely. I am concerned with everything new!! I hate this world now. I know I will not be able to buy a new pump that will last half this long even if I bought the absolute top of the line pump. We have HIGH iron content in our well. What do you guiys think is the best brand of pump. I'm expecting to have to order it, as anything that lowes and those places carry is probably not going to holdup much past there 3 years warranties (if that).
Thanks for any imput!!

BTW: We have a shallow well pump, just a single supply line with a checkvalve in it and the pump resides in the crawlspace. None of them fancy in well pumps.

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GeneP

01-18-2007 17:38:27




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to JayWalt, 01-17-2007 16:05:32  
I finished up a well on my south farm a week ago today. It was 460 deep and the entire system was a bit over $8,000.00 They put in a Gould 1HP. The well man told me it was the starting and stopping that wore out a sumersible pump. He said this one was rated to run continuously for 30 years. I thought that was pretty incredible.
I know this is an entirely different deal than you have but try to spend a little more and be done with it. It is worth a lot to not have to screw with stuff all the time.


Good luck, Gene

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RustyFarmall

01-18-2007 03:30:49




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to JayWalt, 01-17-2007 16:05:32  
The others have given some very good advice, so I'll just throw in my 2 cents worth also.

I have found that when I need plumbing or electrical parts or supplies, it is best to avoid the stores such as Lowe's, Menards, etc. I have a local contractor that will make as good a deal on that stuff as the box stores do, it will be name brand stuff that is good because that is what he installs and his reputation is on the line, plus I can ask questions and recieve answers from a guy who knows what he is talking about. What is even better, the price I pay is only slightly more than at those chain stores.

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El Toro

01-18-2007 06:23:42




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-18-2007 03:30:49  
I think that's the best advice on what you do. When I had a problem with the water storage tank becoming water logged my neighbor has had a Case dealership and sold plumbing supplies. He told me how great his air volume control was, so I bought one. It wasn't any better than what I had.
We bought a supplies from the local plumbing store in town and that's all they sold. I was telling the manager about the water tank and he said I have the item you need. He said to buy the glass lined storage tank with a bladder. I bought the tank and installed it. I never had a water log problem after that. I even installed one at my dad's when he was complaining of his tank being water logged. I think my pump was a Deming and it never gave any trouble. Hal

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JayWalt

01-18-2007 10:42:34




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to El Toro, 01-18-2007 06:23:42  
Yea dude, he was right on. You DEFINITELY want a glass lined tank and the air bladder is key to getting good pressure and helps keep the pump fron cycling so much.

Our water heater is also 34 years old, an old 50gallon. About every 5 years the bottom element goes because the sediment gets so high, covers the bottom element and it can't dissapate it's heat to the water fast enough and burns out. So I have to go in there with a modified vacuum hose and get all the sediment out.

We do have a sediment filter, but it is in the crawlspace and doesnt get changed as often as it should. Dad has installed magnets on the lines because he read it changes their structure so they dont bind up. Now instead of the filter showing red, it shows black sediment, weird.

Ideally I would like to get a softenor and run a dedicated line to the sink for drinking nonsoftened water. However I have supersensitive skin and fear the salt would bother me. I fear the day our water heater goes. Hopefully never, but nothing last forever. When we do I'll be the on installing it. It's going to be hard deciding on one because even the best glass lined wh's probably have 1/2 the glass (actually porcelin) coating as the cheapest old ones and is probably why ours has lasted so long. I am going to installed a water pan under it so when it does fail, and it will, it wont damage the floor, probably just drain it into the crawlspace, or tap into the endcap of the drainpipe. but then I'll need a trap to prevent gases fron coming up. I suppose I'll burn that bridge when I get there. Dad has thankfully installed home made water alarms in key locations. In the future I would like to hook them up to either a solenoid actuated inline water vavle from the main line to shut off the water in the event of a failure. This is pobably not the best option because of the heavy sediment building up and possibly not allowing the valve to shut off. A better option might be a pump disconnect eletrically. It may cause the pump to loose prime, but that is more easily fixed then a new floor =P.

Alot of plans it seems, hopefully I will get around to implementing some of them before I get to old and full of arthritis. =(

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Rob Baird

01-19-2007 19:13:39




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to JayWalt, 01-18-2007 10:42:34  
HI You get more salt out of a slice of bread than you do from softened water unless water is extremely hard. The salt is used to clean the mineral bed. Water should never taste salty or softener is not cleaning itself right. Water heaters are all about the same these days. There are only 3 manufacturers (Rheem Ruud)
(A.O. Smith ) and (State ) everything else made by one of these. I prefer Rheem -Ruud myself I think they are just a little better

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John A.

01-17-2007 21:56:51




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to JayWalt, 01-17-2007 16:05:32  
Jay, Here in Central Texas, were I live, The well at my parents house usually last 15 yrs. That is about long enough. For they have pumped a lot of H2O and are usuall spent by then. Pump sits at 340 ft down, then 400 ft to the house.
My well pumps a lot of Red Iron silty sruff I have to keep filters on to keep the tub/toilet from having Red Iron deposits on the porcelin.
I say hook up with a local waterwell man that you can trust and work of his recs, and companys he uses. Hope this helps.
Later,
John A.

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Rob Baird

01-17-2007 19:47:32




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to JayWalt, 01-17-2007 16:05:32  
HI A pump that will last long time is a Myers HCM series I would sugest the HCM 75 or 100 This is a deep well pump but can be converted to shallow well by placing a jet on the front of it. You will have to restrain the jet to the pump
as it is on compression fittings. This pump will give you submersible pump pressure $0 _60 switch setting from a jet pump. This is an old model pump Myers has been making for years virtually unchanged. I spent more than 30 years in the well drilling and pump business. I still work on them part time

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janicholson

01-17-2007 17:28:59




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to JayWalt, 01-17-2007 16:05:32  
Gould and Red Jacket are very nice commercial grade pumps that last a lifetime and use pl\olymers where they should, and castings where they provide resistance to wear. Here is a link



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Charlie M

01-17-2007 18:17:05




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to janicholson, 01-17-2007 17:28:59  
I have a Gould deep well pump that has a lot of hours on it and its still working. I'd recommend going with a larger motor as it is easier on it if it has more power. Mine is a 3/4 horse.



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SKK - Big Red Fan

01-17-2007 16:32:10




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to JayWalt, 01-17-2007 16:05:32  
Dempster in Beatrice, NE still making their origina windmill, and accessories. There is a company in Texas using high strength plastics that looks extremely interesting. Aeromotor in the "land down under" still making all of the parts as well, pumps,windmills, etc.

The new synthetic "leathers" will last and outperform the originals by many times. Numerous sites out on the web devoted to hand and shallow well systems.

Start browsing the internet. Think you will be surprised.

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Jayalt

01-18-2007 10:26:51




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 Re: OT: Well Pump in reply to SKK - Big Red Fan, 01-17-2007 16:32:10  
Good idea rusty. I got a friend at work who is a GC. When I get back to work, I'll hit him up. I've fixed things for him on several occassion without payment, so he owes me a few =)



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