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SKK - Big Red F

01-16-2007 19:30:22




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Just ordered a couple of Guy"s books.

Where or what did Bermuda Ken publish?

Finally, and don"t get in an uproar, but I"ve been reading and learning from you guys for a year now. But think it would save a lot of repetitive questions if the fine details, not generally covered in the books, like the information many of you have sent me on my early 1940 H was cataloged and avl in a year by year detail difference or spec file for the letter series. I do not believe this would stop the book sales.

I have scanned the M&W instructions into a PDF file that NE Cowman has graciously offed to host as I believe in the sharing and transferring of information is valuable to us all. But understand why many of you who do this as a side-income are tired of offering free advice.

The knowledge still seems to be out there, but I"m 55 and suspect many of the experts to be my age or older older. History teaches us that knowledge and information can be kept to the point of extinction.

Just interested in your thoughts. Be somewhat kind though, recovering from both back and knee surgery; suppose have been thinking about my own mortality lately.

Thx skk

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bermuda ken

01-17-2007 08:11:58




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 Re: Ken's materials in reply to SKK - Big Red Fan, 01-16-2007 19:30:22  
As a general rule, I try to cover the IH products made post 1955. I deal with them on a daily basis and know them well.

I have a "real" full time job (Guy has a job too!!) at an IH dealership and have twin 2+ year olds at home too. I do my research on my "spare time" and are definately NOT in it for the money.(Anyone who does NON FICTION books can attest to that.)

There are tens of thousands of IH stories and secrets that are yet to be found/told. I don't plan to take mine to the grave at all. Just need to find the time to compile them.

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SKK - Big Red Fan

01-17-2007 16:47:39




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 Re: Ken's materials in reply to bermuda ken, 01-17-2007 08:11:58  
Thx for the response. So have you formally published your research. I did a search and didn't find much, or do you mainly do magazine articles?

Obviously I don't know your true name to search by. I'm kind of slow on the uptake.



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bermuda ken

01-18-2007 08:16:27




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 Re: Ken's materials in reply to SKK - Big Red Fan, 01-17-2007 16:47:39  
Search any of the online book retailers for books by Kenneth Updike and most of my published works will appear. I also sell signed copies here at the IH dealership.



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SKK - Big Red Fan

01-18-2007 18:11:35




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 Re: Ken's materials in reply to bermuda ken, 01-18-2007 08:16:27  
What IH dealership would that be?

Just assume I am stupid and illiterate. My wife does.



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Guy Fay

01-16-2007 20:31:46




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 Re: Guy Ken's materials in reply to SKK - Big Red Fan, 01-16-2007 19:30:22  
Actually, I'm 38. Kens a few years older.

The materials you describe would be immense, and generally, they're still owned by Case IH, so we have limitations on us for access. There's quite a bit of stuff that Case IH has now transferred to the Wisconsin Historical Society from blueprints, which would be only part of what you describe. Case donated about 41,000 blueprints, which are now available to you by e-mailing the archives and asking for them by part number. There are some problems mounting them on the web which may or may not ever be resolved. They also only cover parts discontinued from service before 1950 (i.e. IH discontinued them from parts service alltogether, not just from using them in production.

Those changes you mention? The parts books only mention a few. The real total is far, far more, the archives doesn't have a copy yet (they haven't recovered from the blueprints yet before beginning the project.

The other major part of this is specification lists, which also run to several thousand pages. It's not an issue of putting a few pages up for the web, the job you describe is immense. The knowledge we have doesn't come from being around for forever, it comes from company records. I love the folks who state that IH kept poor records, or was loose. They've never had the oppurtunity to look at the company internal records (and it's a hell of a lot of fun!).

I don't even really write anymore-full time job plus takes away the research time. Ken writes, don't know how he does it with the twins.

It's not an income thing, it's a time, cost, and immense undertaking thing.

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SKK - Big Red Fan

01-17-2007 01:20:47




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 Re: Guy Ken's materials in reply to Guy Fay, 01-16-2007 20:31:46  
One more question and I'll stop bugging you for awhile. How did you get Case's permission to go through the records? How long were you able to spend looking at them, etc. Do you add notes from the "old timers you talk to?

39, eh. No wonder your memory works so darn good. I'm actually very pleased to hear that you are a young whiper-snapper. History appears to be in very good hands!



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SKK - Big Red Fan

01-17-2007 01:08:19




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 Re: Guy Ken's materials in reply to Guy Fay, 01-16-2007 20:31:46  
So is there no good way to really know what might have really been avl on a Feb, 1940 H, other than finding a 1 owner tractor; which if I understand you, would only tell you what that person happened to order (or get) not what might or might not have been coming out of the factory at the time, avl, etc.

Thanks for your post. What has Ken written?

skk



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