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Farmall 140 or International 140 ???

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Dean Thornton

01-03-2007 17:22:23




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I have a 140 and the serial number is either 27110 J or 37110 J, we cannot tell which.I need to put decals on the hood and don't know if it should say FARMALL or INTERNATIONAL. Is there anyone out there that might know? Thanks, Dean.




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Hugh MacKay

01-03-2007 19:11:42




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to Dean Thornton, 01-03-2007 17:22:23  
Dean: If your 140 is serial number is 27110, then it is a case of knowing what decals were previously on there, or does it have a foot throttle and does it have square front axle with brace to clutch housing. If yes to those last two items, you have an International 140. If not you have a Farmall.

37110 could be quite different. Is there anything left of the old decals? Even right down to model badge. Starting in 68 all IH deacals had a major change, gone was the word McCormick, just under Farmall or International. From then on the major side hood decal became International on all IH tractors. Farmalls models had the word Farmall in 1" high letters on the model badge. All US built tractors except the 140 had a grill change, going from the 06 type grill to the 56 type grill. It is unclear exactly what serial number the change was made on 140 decals. Some say late 67 while others say mid 68. I have seen late 67 models with new type decals and I've seen a couple of early 68 with old type decals. I suspect with repaints, some have had the wrong decals applied.

If you want to get it excatly right, any trace of the old decals would be very helpful, especially if your serial number is 37110. I would like to know anything you find myself. Your 140 is amoung the last 200 built in 67, assuming 37110 is correct.

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Dean Thornton

01-03-2007 20:15:23




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-03-2007 19:11:42  
Hugh, My 140 has a round front axle and no foot throttle. I can tell where the old decal was. It had 2 square ends, not the slanted end that I have seen on some Int. 140's. Thanks, Dean.



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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2007 03:13:13




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to Dean Thornton, 01-03-2007 20:15:23  
Dean: Your 140 is definitely a Farmall. I suspect it is the pre 67-68 model with FARMALL along side of hood, with McCormick under it in small letters. My 140 is in that same group, and I will check after daybreak. I think the main FARMALL decal on my tractor has square ends and the 140 badge has slanted ends. I think I'm right, however one gets used to seeing the tractor everyday, and sometimes forgets details. If it is different from what I said, I'll come back right after daylight.

If you want to sort out which serial number is correct, go to the casting date codes. Each casting on tractor has one, and they are day, month and year with what looks like a round head, blade type screw between each. Older Farmalls used letters for the year, but your 140 should be all numbers. In the case you have letters Z is 1954, A is 55, B is 56, etc. An original tractor should have all date codes within couple months of each other, and are probably 1-3 months before tractor was actually built. If you have a casting date code off by more than 3 months, almost certain that casting has been replaced somewhere in the life of the tractor.

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SuperA-Tx

01-04-2007 07:10:13




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-04-2007 03:13:13  
Hugh,

On one of my 140's the axle is round and on the other it is diamond. Neither has a foot throttle.

I think they both have "International" on them. I have never checked the serial numbers to see when they were made. Like you, I have gotten so use to seeing them I would have to double check to make sure I am right.

Raining at the moment but Ill make it to the farm this morning some time and check it out and get back to yall.

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SuperA-Tx

01-04-2007 08:46:32




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to SuperA-Tx, 01-04-2007 07:10:13  
Went and checked and I was suprised, I thought the tractors were older.

Serial # 36042J has a diamond axle and no foot throttle. It has "International" with the slanted ends on the decal. 1968 year model.

Serial # 66495J has a round axle and no foot throttle. It has "International" with the slanted ends on the decal. 1976 year model.

I guess my Super A did all the work for 20 years until the 140 came along... A cousin of mine was cultivating roses in sand and the Super A kept jumping off the rows and he got really upset. My father came out there to check on him and he told him about the trouble. My father went and bought a new 140 and carried it to him. My cousin was so happy he said he would have worked for free it was such an improvement.

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2007 09:21:20




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to SuperA-Tx, 01-04-2007 08:46:32  
Do either of your tractors have the word farmall on the model badge, along with 140?



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SuperA-Tx

01-04-2007 11:22:06




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-04-2007 09:21:20  
Model Badge? I guess your talking about the sticker on the side of the grill there at the front?

They just have "140" in rather large letters.

Theres nothing on there that says "Farmall".



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Dean Thornton

01-04-2007 15:41:36




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to SuperA-Tx, 01-04-2007 11:22:06  

Hi, I checked my 140's casting numbers today. All I could find was one on the hydraulic housing that read 5 3 K, and one on the transmission housing that read 5 14 K. I reckon that means I need to put FARMALL decals back on it. Thanks, Dean.



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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2007 16:31:56




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to Dean Thornton, 01-04-2007 15:41:36  
Dean: I don't think there is any question FARMALL is the decal to go with with McCormick in small print.

Back to your serial number, definitely not 27111. Two of your casting date codes, K are 1965, both May. The serial number 37111, would indicate amoung the last 200 tractors built in 1967. Very uncommon for a casting to be cast that far ahead of production. What are the casting date codes for the torque tube and engine block. If they are the same aprox. date as transmission and hydraulic, I'd be double checking that 37111 serial number. 31111 or 32111 would sound more reasonable.

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Dean Thornton

01-04-2007 16:40:15




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-04-2007 16:31:56  
Hi, The last 4 numbers of the serial number are clear- 7110. The first number is beat up and we cannot tell if it is a 2 or a 3. Dean.



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Hugh Mackay

01-05-2007 08:30:33




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to Dean Thornton, 01-04-2007 16:40:15  
Dean: Send me an e mail. Your tractor has me curious. Make note of thread I started on page one.



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farmallhal

01-04-2007 16:10:36




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to Dean Thornton, 01-04-2007 15:41:36  
Dean, I strongly believe your tractor is a 1965 model as my 140 has s/n 307xx as the id plate is very readable. I haven't checked the casting codes and can check tomorrow if you need additional information. Hope this helps, Hal.



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CNKS

01-03-2007 18:08:16




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to Dean Thornton, 01-03-2007 17:22:23  
27110 is 1964, 37110 is 1967, J is the designation for Rockford clutch. You can't tell by the serial because Farmall and International had the same series of numbers. The International will have a heavy duty front axle, square or diamond shaped and probably a foot throttle. At least that's the way it was on the International Super A.



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Hugh MacKay

01-05-2007 02:34:07




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to CNKS, 01-03-2007 18:08:16  
CNKS: Come back with an opinion of current info on this thread. Casting date codes are saying May 65 and tractor built as late as Nov-Dec 67.



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Dean Thornton

01-03-2007 20:18:09




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 Re: Farmall 140 or International 140 ??? in reply to CNKS, 01-03-2007 18:08:16  
My 140 has a round front axle and no foot throttle. Thanks, Dean.



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