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dave2

12-18-2006 01:58:41




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Hi Folks,
Is there a trick to figuring how much front weight you need, other than trial and error? The link (if it works) is the type of tractor I have with a front loader added. I have a container on the back that holds a cubic meter that I haul horse manure away with. When I have the front loader fork and shovel mounted, no problem. But when they are off, I can't keep the front end on the ground when my container is full. My first thought was to weigh the fork and bucket and just hang that much weight on the front end, but that may be overkill. I could be wrong in my thinking (why I'm asking you folks), but with the front loader weight all attached to the center of the tractor, I would need considerably less weight attached up front. I don't know what my container weighs when full, but I guess the weight of 1 cubic meter of dirt would be the heaviest thing I'd put in it. Any idea how much weight I'd need? I'm going to have to make something, so need to get as close as possible to start.

Thanks, Dave

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Nat 2

12-18-2006 10:43:37




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 Re: front end weight question in reply to dave2, 12-18-2006 01:58:41  
If you know how much weight is in the container, you can measure the distance between the rear axle and the center of the box, then multiply them together. That will give you the torque that the manure is putting on the axle to lift the front end.

Now you measure the distance between the rear axle and the front of the tractor. Divide the torque by the distance between the front end and the rear axle, and that will give you your weight.

That's the simplest scientific way to do it, but you have to know how much manure weighs. In reality, weighing the manure is going to be pretty tedious. You'd have to weigh a 5gal bucket of horse puckey on a bathroom scale, then figure out how many buckets of horse puckey it takes to fill the container.

In reality, it's much easier to trial and error. Whatever you do, don't make your front end weight more difficult to deal with than the loader. At that point, you may as well just put the loader back on the tractor.

The simplest solution is to not put as much manure in the container. If you're lifting the front end off the ground in a simple see-saw scanario, IMHO, you're putting too much weight on the rear axle.

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Hugh MacKay

12-18-2006 02:59:52




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 Re: front end weight question in reply to dave2, 12-18-2006 01:58:41  
Dave: Easy, lower you loader without using down presure onto a set of scales. That should give your answer. The fact your loader is attached to middle of tractor is not the factor you must consider, but rather the actual weight out front.



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