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140 differences through the years

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Al L. in Wisc.

12-03-2006 07:26:01




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Good morning! Other than grills; starting i.e. pull-ring/key & push button/key, are there differences in the Farmall 140s. Imagine they didn"t come w/coffee mug holders :^).




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Hugh MacKay

12-03-2006 08:47:59




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 Re: 140 differences through the years in reply to Al L. in Wisc., 12-03-2006 07:26:01  
Al: Basic chassis and power train never changed. Two basic changes from 100 and 130 were fan hub automitive type water pump, versus the old pump on bottom water outlet from block, and pressed steel front wheels on 140.

The 140 started off 58 to mid 63 with 40-60 type grill, chrome plated decals, 6 volt generator. Mid 63 until 67 it was 04-06 grill which stayed until end of production in 79. The decals went back to adhesive type after mid 63 and that stayed until 79. Between 58 and 67 they were called either Farmall or International the later being industrial, and the name McCormick remained in decal.

From 68 onward they were all called Internationals, with the word Farmall on model decal just above 140. Not sure if anything but 140 appeared if it was industrial. The name Mccormick disappeared from decals at the end of 67.

12 volt generator came in the latter half of the 60s and 12 volt alternator somewhere between 72 and 75. Key start came with the alternator. There are bound to be items I forgot, but that is close. One other item, all 140 have a heavy wire in harness, most of them, it's not coupled at either end. It was for an optional horn positioned between radiator and grill. I found this wire when restoring my 140 and changing it to 12 volt alternator. I couldn't imagine what such a heavy wire was for ( probably 8-10 gauge). After much digging in IH literature I discovered what it was for. I now have a switch on dash and use that wire to power a 12 volt motor on an attachment I have on front of tractor.

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Haas

12-03-2006 18:28:27




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 Re: 140 differences through the years in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-03-2006 08:47:59  
Hugh, I have a 1975 140 that I know is original. The charging system is a 12 volt generator. The regulator is mounted on the clutch housing under the touch control rockshafts. This tractor must have been one of the last before they started using alternators.



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Hugh MacKay

12-04-2006 05:02:54




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 Re: 140 differences through the years in reply to Haas, 12-03-2006 18:28:27  
Haas: I've never been exactly sure when those electrical changes occured. Something just hit me though, last summer at a show, I stumbled onto a Blue Ribbon service manual. I just dug it out, and it lists 4 electrical diagrams during production of 140. First one occured at serial number 26800 and that was 6 to 12 volt, second occured at 45000 looks like lights only, third occured at 57723 and I see both alternator and solinoid. I just briefly looked at this, and those were the changes that stood out. If anyone has questions, I can go into this in more detail.

I said stumbled, I bought that manual for $8. from a flee market vendor.

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Al L. in Wisc.

12-04-2006 05:38:46




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 Re: 140 differences through the years in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-04-2006 05:02:54  
Getting a late start this morning, half cup of yesterdays coffee to get me started. Hugh, I appreciate the information you gave. I had viewed your 140 mid-last week and went back for "nother peek. What is the device on the front end? Also, realize you are in cold Canada, but could you give me the dimensions w/cultivators and weight? Think I have found me a tractor and need to know this stuff for fetching the tractor. Thanks, Al

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hugh MacKay

12-04-2006 06:01:11




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 Re: 140 differences through the years in reply to Al L. in Wisc., 12-04-2006 05:38:46  
Al: The device out front on my 140 is mounting for a Gandy chemical applicator. I have a two row vegetable seeder, my own fabrication as it aplies to mounting. It is center mount, thus seeders are down in front of operator. The Gandy laid a band of chemical in front of each seeding unit. I had to place it high to get material to flow dowm the front press wheel of seeder. The Gandy is also the 12 volt electric motor.

On weight I expect shipping on 140 with fast hitch was close to 2,500#, Rear wheel weights 150#, front 90#, cultivators probably close to 500# depending on ground wotking tools. A lot of offsets had chloride, particularly if they were running them on minamum wheel tread. kept them upright much better. You could be looking at 4,000#.

If you need any info from this blue ribbon manual, feel free to ask. I almost forgot about having this until Haas raised the question on alternator. I have a roll top desk here almost full of tractor info, much of it I've had for a long time. I even forget half of what is in there.

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