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48 Cub Just Died Need Help

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Joe Carter

11-07-2006 14:00:19




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Ok guys I need some help. I have a 48 Cub which I had just fixed/restore several things including:

Cleaning the fuel tank and sediment bowl,
rebuilt and soaked out the carb, replaced the fuel lines, replaced the spark plug wires
replaced the radiator fan belt
and just for grins painted it.

Well it fired up like a champ and ran for 2-3 hrs. It was running fine no missing, power was good no problems at all until the engine just stopped.

It acted like and I thought it had run out of fuel but, no it had half a tank.

I tried restarting and it backfired once and won't seem to fire.

I know little about the magneto and how this thing works (it was my dad's)so what steps do I need to take to start troubleshooting.

I assume I need to check to see if the plugs are firing by grounding them (too wet today) if they don't fire what next? If they do fire what next.

Thanks in advance for any help

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Joe Carter

11-08-2006 15:28:36




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 Re: 48 Cub Just Died Need Help in reply to Joe Carter, 11-07-2006 14:00:19  
Thanks for all the help.

Its dark when I go to and home from work but I did pull the plug on the bottom of the carb and had good gas flow to there. That should elminate:

the screen at the top of the sediment bowl (the bowl looks like clean gas, no particulates, and nothing like the rust bowl that it looked like before I started cleaning, I had soaked the screen in carb cleaner just before installing)

and the screen at the elbow on the inlet of the carb.

I did completely disassemble the carb and soak it in cleaner so it should be clean

My next step will be to flood the engine and see if I'v got fuel at the plugs. If yes then I don't have a fuel problem and I'll check for fire at the plugs while I've got them out.

Does anyone know how long a cub will run on just the battery? I did some reading last night on cub won't run problems and did not previously understand how the coil worked that is to say it draws voltage from the battery to fire the plugs. I don't think my alternater works so I recharge the battery before every use. (I only use the cub for 3-4 hrs every year!)

If a dead battery (still turned the engine over) will cause a cub not run I may have found my problem. Battery is charging now.

thanks for all the help

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Greg-N-CA

11-07-2006 18:51:24




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 Re: 48 Cub Just Died Need Help in reply to Joe Carter, 11-07-2006 14:00:19  
Let's not forget the screen at the carb. It could be pluged after all that has been done to the fuel system. There is a 90 degree fitting at the carb with a screen inside that is most likely dirty. Good luck, let's know how it works out, Greg



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Dellbertt

11-07-2006 15:51:57




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 Re: 48 Cub Just Died Need Help in reply to Joe Carter, 11-07-2006 14:00:19  
Make sure to have a screen in the top of the sediment bowl and install an inline fuel filter.



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Nat 2

11-08-2006 05:38:47




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 Re: 48 Cub Just Died Need Help in reply to Dellbertt, 11-07-2006 15:51:57  
Do NOT install an inline filter. Most inline filters are meant for a pressure fuel system, and will not allow enough gas through via gravity even for a gas-sipping Cub.

These tractors have run for as long as 68 years with no fuel filter, and the gas these days is far cleaner and purer than it could've ever hoped to be back in the day.



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Ron Andersson

11-07-2006 15:49:21




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 Re: 48 Cub Just Died Need Help in reply to Joe Carter, 11-07-2006 14:00:19  
Inside your fuel tank between the bottom of the tank and the sediment bowl there is a fine screen that collects everything! try unhooking your fuel line from the carb and blow air back up into the tank thru the fuel line(not too much pressure)loosen the fuel cap first and usually you will see alot of sediment come back into the fuel tank,you might have to drain and clean a couple of times.This "little "problem drove me nuts for a while and and old farmer told me to try it and it worked!Good Luck!

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SuperA-Tx

11-07-2006 15:39:05




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 Re: 48 Cub Just Died Need Help in reply to Joe Carter, 11-07-2006 14:00:19  
I just got finished doing about the same thing and ran into a problem after soaking my carb. The carb cleaner says to wash it out but there is no way to actually get the cleaner out without taking it apart. I tried several times and ended up taking it to the parts dealer where they soaked it in a hot bath then took it apart and blew it dry. I ended up replacig the gasket as well because the cleaner ate it up.

Also you mentioned you cleaned out the gas tank. If you used sand you might have still had some in there and it got into the carb. You can buy in inline fuel filter and install it, pretty simple.

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City-Boy McCoy

11-07-2006 14:58:31




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 Re: 48 Cub Just Died Need Help in reply to Joe Carter, 11-07-2006 14:00:19  
Start with the three basics of internal combustion engines: 1) Compression; 2) Spark; 3) Fuel. One at the time in that order.

Wild guess: It sounds like a fuel starvation problem as evidenced by the backfire - or pop - which is an indication of a lean condition. Can also indicate timing, although if it ran for perfectly for 2-3 hours, that is doubtful.

mike



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Mrgwork

11-07-2006 14:31:12




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 Re: 48 Cub Just Died Need Help in reply to Joe Carter, 11-07-2006 14:00:19  
Hello, yes that is the good starting point, also check to make sure that you are getting gas to the carb again, may have shaken some extra junk down into the bowl.

Mike G



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Jim Broughton

11-07-2006 16:19:17




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 Re: 48 Cub Just Died Need Help in reply to Mrgwork, 11-07-2006 14:31:12  
If you have no luck, after trying all of the previous comments, and you have fire and gas also,....then unscrew the small brass bolt(it looks like a bolt) on the side of the carb, carefully save the gasket if you can and you will see that it is an orifice going through the float chamber..look on the end of that small cylinder shaped bolt and you will see a tiny,tiny hole ..use a small welder's cleaning wire or your wife's smallest needle to clean it out. (It is really very tiny) being careful to not break off your cleaning tool in the hole. Put the unit back in, screw up tight, but not too tight, and she should start right up. For some reason, if that little "bugger" plugs up, she just won't run !! Good luck! Jim B.

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