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1963 farmall 460 ?

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Dan (wi)

11-03-2006 17:02:23




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Ive just brought home a 460,1 of 2 that were purchased new on the state farm, my dad bought it from them in 1964.My question is,after the serial (#30339) are the letters S-Y-CC,what do the letters stand for? Thanx for your help,Dan




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teddy52food

03-07-2009 09:56:10




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 Re: charging question in reply to kennebunksawmill, 03-07-2009 09:06:00  
That seems a little high. What does it show not running? Maybe your meter is a little off. I always like them on the high side anyway cause they don't get used hour after hour like they were designed for. If you don't notice acid boiling out of the battery caps I would not be too concerned.



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John T

03-07-2009 10:11:19




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 Re: charging question in reply to kennebunksawmill, 03-07-2009 09:06:00  
If its really a 6 volt battery and NOT an 8 volt battery, the normal voltage just setting there if its a good battery thats charged up

SHOULD BE AROUND 6.3 VOLTS (3-2.1 volt cells)

Then when hooked to a good and properly regulated generator charging system at fast RPM Id expect the battery voltage to rise to

6.5 TO MAYBE 7.5 OR SO MAXXXX DEPENDING on the RPM and Generator and Voltage Regulator..

I wouldnt get to excited if that 8 volts only lasted a short time until the battery recovered from the energy depleted when she starts up but then backed off to the 6.5 to 7 or so volt range BUTTTTT T if you keep well over 8 volts for an extended time you could overcharge n harm the battery

The rate of charge is supposed to be regulated by that 4 terminal Voltage Regulator you have pictured. Sure its wired right?????

ARM/GEN on VR to Gennys ARM post FLD on VR to Gennys FLD post BAT on VR up to Load (NOT battery/starter) side of ammeter LOAD on VR sends hot batetry voltage up to light switch

NOWWWWW WWW if you have a 12 volt genny and voltage regulator..... .it will sure overcharge and over raise the normal 6.3 battery volts SURE THATS NOT THE CASE????? ???

You dont have an 8 volt battery in there do ya?? It would have 4 cells insted of 3 like a 6 volt battery????? ???

Keep an eye on the batetry n if she starts outgassing badly and/or boils over shes overcharging and that can hurt it.....

If shes wired wrong or has a shorted FLD post that can keep her in high max charge rate and overcharge the battery..... ...

If the VR is bad and stuck in the high max charge condition that also can overcharge the battery..... ....

If its a 3 brush genny they can be adjusted to lower the charge rate.....

Remove the wire from the Gennys FLD post (one to FLD on VR) n see how she charges then ??? (should be very low to no charge at all) Then dead ground the genny FLD post right at the genny(still removed wire to VR) n see what happens (should be max high charge)

I think its either a bad VR,,,,, ,,or the VR isnt wired right,,,,, ,or the FLD is shorted to ground,,,,, ,,,,or its a 12 volt genny and VR,,,,, ,or its an 8 volt battery,,,,, ,,or your volt meter isnt accurate

Lets see what others think

John T

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CNKS

11-03-2006 20:34:01




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 Re: 1963 farmall 460 ? in reply to CNKS, 11-03-2006 20:22:10  
After looking at Guy's codes again, I think he may have a typo and really meant to put your description. Because, there is also a Hydra touch power supply with a 17 gpm pump (Z suffix), no mention of low and reverse. Also, my 460U serial has a Y suffix (need to check and make sure) and does not have a low and reverse attachment -- so I think you are correct.



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TDK

11-04-2006 05:55:20




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 Re: 1963 farmall 460 ? in reply to CNKS, 11-03-2006 20:34:01  
Are you are looking at the "IH Tractor Data Book" ? I may have never noticed if you had not mentioned it, bit your wording above is exactly what mine says. I believe your correct on the typo. I was refering to my parts manual when I made the previous post. P.S.- I am familiar with the "high speed low & reverse attachment", as our 504 has it. It's probably great for loader work, otherwise I don't like it. It's really the only thing I don't like about that tractor. David

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CNKS

11-04-2006 13:23:19




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 Re: 1963 farmall 460 ? in reply to TDK, 11-04-2006 05:55:20  
Yes, that was Guy's book -- he also makes mistakes, just not as many as others do -- after looking closely at the codes, I do believe it is a typo.



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CNKS

11-03-2006 17:09:02




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 Re: 1963 farmall 460 ? in reply to Dan (wi) , 11-03-2006 17:02:23  
30339 is late 1962. S is TA with provision for 540 rpm independent PTO, Y is Hydra touch low and reverse attachment with 12 gpm pump, CC means that 3rd gear is a heavy duty tillage gear (less speed, more power than the standard 3rd).



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