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A good site to teach about implements?

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Mike CA

11-03-2006 12:51:04




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As most of you know, I'm not a farmer. I can spell farmer. I can recognize one in a field. But I am not one, nor do I know much about the business.
I wanted to read more about implemnts, and what they are used for. The reason is because I am lost when coversations turn to "my tractor can pull an 18 disk harrow cultivator with a 4 blade ring in tongue loops back modulator".

I just stare blankly at the screen.

So, I want to learn more so I know what the heck you guys are talking about. Where is a real basic informational site that would teach a city-slicker like me about implements?

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Janicholson

11-04-2006 07:26:25




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  
Mike,
In addition to the book "learnin" I am going to go a step further and recommend a bit of on the job experience. The difference is profound. I Know you are buisy just now, but I am recommending that you get to know a small acerage farmer with the willingness to take on a novice hand with the chores and operations. Volunteerism is a good thing if it is appreciated and the bennifit wil be dramatic to both. Even a Saturday a month would do. Find your local 4-H club through your County Extension office, and volunteer as a leader in some capacity. The opportunities will blossom. JimN

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Jim Becker

11-04-2006 05:59:55




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  
The 150 years Book Genne mentioned is an excellent reference to see what all IH made. One of the other books mentioned would be better if you are trying to understand just what the machines do or how to use them. A quick check of eBay shows about 20 copies of different editins of the Deere book currently on sale. Item 270047575664 looks like the one that finishes next.



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williamf

11-04-2006 05:35:14




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  
The book Cedric mentioned, Machines For the Farm, Ranch, and Plantation, is available used at www.alibris.com They've got seven copies, ranging from $11 to $35 depending on condition. Just type in the title in their search box.
Good luck, Wm



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gene bender

11-04-2006 02:28:03




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  
Best source would be C.H. WENDELLs book 150YRS OF I-H.I t has pics and descriptions of everything they sold.



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Cedric

11-04-2006 01:33:04




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  
In 1948 a book was released titled "Machines For the Farm, Ranch, and Plantation", edited by A.W.Turner and Elmer J. Johnson who were associated with the US Department of Agriculture. It gives a comprehensive coverage of the machines used in seedbed preparation, tillage and harvesting, including their selection, operation and maintenance. It is long out of print I know, but if you are looking for something that covers the machines of that era it may be worth advertising for it. Sid.

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oldiron29

03-07-2009 08:43:46




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 Re: F12 front steel wheel in reply to MTC, 03-07-2009 07:06:10  
Mike, When you asked last time I thought you has double wheels. You have a single wheel I have never seen one like that. My be very early F-12 1933. There where some preproduction tractors that my have had this wheel. oldiron29



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Gary_N_WV

11-03-2006 16:49:36




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  
Lot of pictures and history here



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Gary_N_WV

11-03-2006 16:44:05




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  



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Gary_N_WV

11-03-2006 16:38:58




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  



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City-Boy McCoy

11-03-2006 14:40:08




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  
Mike:
You make an excellent point. I have not been on the farm for 47 years and I want to (re)learn this also. I suspect there are different names for the same implement (bottom plow, turning plow, moldboard plow, etc.) which only further complicates things for guys like me who know just enough to be dangerous. And then, I suspect there are different methods, using different equipment to accomplish the same task.
I'd love to know each step of the process - if, for example, I had an undisturbed 10 year old 20 acre pasture in North Alabama, and wanted to raise sweet corn and had a Farmall H plus a Super A with cultivators.
I know farming is a lot different today. For myself, I am not interested so much with this modern no tillage; I am more interested in learning to farm with my old tractors. I'm not sure, but I think cultivators are a thing of the past, unless you are one o' them there "Ecology Natural Grown Farmers", (which sounds like it wouldn't be all bad from a marketing standpoint). It is all chemicals today.
mike

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Krazy-Ken

03-07-2009 08:22:54




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Mike CA

11-03-2006 15:54:23




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to City-Boy McCoy, 11-03-2006 14:40:08  
See? There goes one. What the heck is a cultivator? What does it do?



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David Kronwall

11-04-2006 03:45:03




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 15:54:23  
Mike...as a footnote to Allan's answer, and just for fun, here's a little bit of ag trivia concerning the word "cultivator" and Howard Rotavator Company. As you may know, Howard was a British company that manufactured tractor-mounted tillers (generic name) which they called Rotavators (trademark name). In the US we tend to call them roto-tillers, which, I believe, is actually another trademark. Anyway, since the British and we share many things EXCEPT a common language, here's where the word "Rotavator" came from. What we Americans call tillage, breaking up the soil in various ways to create a seedbed, the Brits call cultivation. So when A.C. Howard, the inventor of the Rotavator, came to naming his rotary tiller (or, as he would have said, rotary cultivator), he combined the words ROTARY and CULTIVATOR, and came up with ROTAVATOR. The word also happens to be a pallindrome--a word that is spelled the same forward and backward. Ha! Isn't that amazing? The reason I happen to know this trivia is that I worked for Howard Rotavator from 1979 until they ceased manufacturing operations here in the States in about 1985. My former boss, who was one of the TWO men sent to the US from England in the 50s/60s to sell Rotavators, still lives in Woodstock, Illinois. Just a little trivia for you and anyone else who's interested. David

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Allan In NE

11-04-2006 03:51:58




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to David Kronwall, 11-04-2006 03:45:03  
The ones that drive me nuts are the guys that call 'em "a set of cultivators" or better yet, a "set of plows".

They don't come in "sets". :>)

Allan



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Al L. in Wisc.

11-04-2006 05:41:22




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Allan In NE, 11-04-2006 03:51:58  
Reminds me of a George Carlin line "why do they call it a tv set when you only get one?" Didn"t some Farmall A"s have "Cultivision" on the circular decal? Pallindromes, thanks for the mental jog as to that term i.e. radar, level, even S.O.S. (as is pads) others will have their own SOS variations. This day old coffee tastes good. And I am enjoying this start to my morning. Slow start as I pulled by lower left back somehow loading my dad"s wheelchair yesterday. Great comments about the library as a source for information. I have glanced at older ag books their and wouldn"t be surprised a person could pick them up at a local library book sale. Just mention the "old, seldom checked-out" book and they may just pull it and set it aside for you. What a great resource libraries AND computers AND yt"ers are! And to you Kim, if you view this, what a great site. I missed it last evening when I couldn"t get this forum up. Enjoy your tractors/implements this weekend. Me - :^( because I don"t have a 340U.

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Allan In NE

11-03-2006 17:24:56




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 15:54:23  
Mike,

A cultivator removes any unwanted weeds and grasses while leaving the crop standing intact.

A field cultivator on the other hand, takes 'er all out and leaves nothing standing.

Allan

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Cue P.

11-03-2006 14:19:56




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  
There are some old books out there that are very interesting as far as implements and farming practices going back a few years. One in particular was ebay recently "Farm gas engines and tractors 1932,1938 " and may show up again. John Deere also produced one but cant recall the name offhand. Check your local library, they may have some collecting dust.



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nballen

11-03-2006 13:45:34




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  
One place to start is equipment manufacturers' web sites - look into their tillage / equipment (not tractors) sections.

CNH
Kuhn
Klaas
Agco
Vermeer
etc.



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CENTAUR

11-03-2006 13:22:28




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 Re: A good site to teach about implements? in reply to Mike CA, 11-03-2006 12:51:04  
I am an ex farm-boy and I also do not understand 75% of what is what!I am from the eastern part of the country where we practiced dry land farming.In the west they irrigate which changes everything.Like in most subjects different people in different places differ.It seems they are only interested in what pulls the implements.I think as we begin to understand how to post pictures this will improve.CENTAUR

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