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Hugh MacKay

11-02-2006 13:17:38




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If you take a peek, I just posted 4 photos of my Farmall 140 fabricated 3 point hitch with MF-25, 24 blade disk, 18" blades, in implement photos. While I agree it is too much load both from a lifting and pulling point of veiw, we did disk with it going axle deep, gangs set just about as they are in photo. If I wanted an everyday working disk for this hitch and tractor, I'd go 20 blade, those 4 extra 18" blades and 1-1/4 arbor bolts add a lot of weight.

We have plowed with this hitch using 2x12 IH 3 point hitch plow. I don't have that perfected yet, as I can pull the 2x12 fast hitch plow with less tractor effort. When I get this hitch to the point it pulls 2x12 plow just as easily 1 point or 3 point hitch, then I'll call it mastered. A hitch is a hitch is a hitch once it has learned to plow.

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Jimmy King

11-03-2006 14:19:39




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 Re: banjo, Jim, Sid, etc. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-02-2006 13:17:38  
Hugh, it looks to me you are having way too much fun since you retired. Jim



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Hugh MacKay

11-04-2006 22:45:02




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 Re: banjo, Jim, Sid, etc. in reply to Jimmy King, 11-03-2006 14:19:39  
Jimmy: One would naturally think that, however I'm beginning to think my cousin was right. He's 10 years older than I, retired on a Dr's pension. Normally we exchange e mails 3-4 times per year and visit at least once. This fall I hadn't heard from him in 6 months and then this e mail.

Life cycle should be reversed, one should start off dead, gradually feel better in a seniors home, then get a gold watch and go to work for 40 years, retiring as a teenagers , and having the life savings to really do the teen thing. Of course one knows the end result, as he goes on taking this right through to the beginning. he ended this by saying, " getting old sucks ".

Having not heard from him in 6 months, I wrote back, saying, "glad to hear you are not at the starting gate."

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BillyinStoughton

11-02-2006 14:05:08




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 Re: banjo, Jim, Sid, etc. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-02-2006 13:17:38  
Hugh,

Now that's the cats meow! Nice job on er'! And thanks for posting the pictures. You are gonna give alot of guys on here an idea!

Let us know how she pulls when you get the chance!

Billy



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Hugh MacKay

11-02-2006 14:51:01




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 Re: banjo, Jim, Sid, etc. in reply to BillyinStoughton, 11-02-2006 14:05:08  
Billy: The 140 pulls the disk much better than I expected. Those are Firestone field and road, 12.4x24, Those give the 140 excellent traction and flotation. I have one set of wheel weights and a good chunk of front end weight in center mount tool bars on my cultivator lift frames plus an out front under axle dry chemical applicator. Probably the two together exert a down force about 200 lbs at the front axle. We have already done about 10 acres of disking, hiking along in 2nd gear. Bear in mind ground speeds are about 10% faster with those large tires.

Plowing is the one that is still causing us a bit of grief. For some reason we cant pull 2x12 3 point as easily as 2x12 1 point. I guess I'd have to say probably weather is the biggest grief. We cant get it stopped raining up here thus we are not getting enough plowing days. The part that scares me is maybe those rain days are allowing us too many days to sit in shop and change things. Everyday you get someone come along with a better idea, almost have to chase them off with a stick. Of course I'm right in the middle of some feirce competition plowing guys. they can be vocal. Now I know their originallity rules would never allow a Farmall 140 with a 2x12 3 point hitch plow in competition. Hell, they wont even let me in with 140 and 1 point fast hitch plow, has to be 1958 or older, thus I'd have to use 130.

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BillyinStoughton

11-03-2006 14:35:31




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 Re: banjo, Jim, Sid, etc. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-02-2006 14:51:01  
Where are you anyway Hugh? We've been fighting the rain interverals too. It's been an all around good year though...so who am I to complain!

Let me know how that plow does once you get her struck out and the ground cooperates.

Have a good one!

Billy



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Hugh MacKay

11-03-2006 16:40:47




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 Re: banjo, Jim, Sid, etc. in reply to BillyinStoughton, 11-03-2006 14:35:31  
Billy: I'm in SW Ontario, we had a beautiful growing season, record crops in most commodities. Right from the word go last spring we just seemed to have the right amount of rainfall each week all summer. I don't think I ever saw water runoff from fields all summer. It would rain to the point of runoff, then stop for a few days.

Then just about the time folks started combining corn and beans, all hell broke loose and it's been raining ever since. Now, the beans they are combining are shelling bad, moulds showing up in corn. I have 9.2x24 tires on my SA with woods mower, there were beans next to my grass, and in their prime growth, the beans were 6" higher than SA rear tire. Pod counts that were unheard of in this part of the world. Just watching from my yard I can tell yields especially corn are high. The guys working the hardest are the guys hauling the corn from the combine. You see combines ocasionally waiting for empty grain wagons, trucks, etc.

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BillyinStoughton

11-04-2006 14:07:31




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 Re: banjo, Jim, Sid, etc. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-03-2006 16:40:47  
It's been the same way here in Wisconsin. Corn taller than I have ever seen and beans that touch the shoulders of my 6'3" frame. At some points we've had too much rain...but just enough dry weather to follow it, that it didn't hurt too bad. Corn moisture has been excellent in the 18% range, so a lot of fields have died a quick combine death. It looks like the market is gonna hold pretty well, so let's hope that most everyone can make out alright.

SW Ontario eh? I'll be up in that neck of the woods playing some hockey this year. I'll have to let ya know what I think of the place. Alberta and Saskatchewan have been under my belt for a few years, but I haven't travelled too much into Ontario.

Keep me posted on your project! Thanks again Hugh!

Billy

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Janicholson

11-02-2006 13:36:04




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 Re: banjo, Jim, Sid, etc. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-02-2006 13:17:38  
That is great, I agree it would task both the hitch and the tractor a bit, But I am impressed. JimN



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Hugh MacKay

11-02-2006 15:16:44




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 Re: banjo, Jim, Sid, etc. in reply to Janicholson, 11-02-2006 13:36:04  
Jim: I was actually surprised the 140 handled that disk as well as it did, both pulling and lifting. When I bought the disk, I had every intention of cutting the arbor bolts and taking one disk off each gang. I started to dismantle it one day, needed it moved so put 1 point fast hitch tool bar under front of disk and a chain from top link to hitch pull bail. I decided if I had proper lower link thus moving disk closer to tractor, I could lift that disk. I bought MF 35 lower links and a new top link, had a fabricator build the mounts. At about 1/2 throttle I pushed the hydraulic lever and up went disk.

I have advertized the MF disk for sale, however when I pulled that disk out of a hedge row, much to my surprise it had perfect bearings and excellent heavy gauge blades. I might not be as lucky next time, thus I'm not giving those disk bearings and blades away. When spring weather comes, I will cut the disk down to 20 blade. Just have to shorten and rethread each arbor.

I had hoped on getting in more plowing time, but it seems to rain an 1" per day around here, and now it's starting to get too cold for this old carcass. Got to get one of these southern offset guys with some land to invite me down south for the winter. AZ would seem quite nice to me.

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Janicholson

11-03-2006 07:08:21




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 Re: banjo, Jim, Sid, etc. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-02-2006 15:16:44  
AZ is seasonally challenged unless one goes north of the rim country, then it has seasons but only a spit of crop growing rain. The remaining H2O is down about 1500 ft. Lived there. JimN



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