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Resurrecting Stuck Engines

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SproutW

10-24-2006 08:31:06




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I guess it is the fall air and the harvest moons. For some reason this time of year gets me excited for tractor restoration. I can't seem to get enough of it, until it is time to pay my bills. Every tractor I've ever bought has a stuck engine. I was thinking of buying an F-20 with a loose engine this week and thought, what fun would that be. I love taking a stuck engine and over coming the obstacles to get it unstuck. No better feeling in the world once you separate those lovely pistons from the sleeves. When I’m having a rough day and wishing I were in the shop. I just drop in on this forum and it takes me to a happier place. Hard to believe I restore these old beauties for stress therapy. I’ve attached a picture of a project F-20 I’m finishing. I got another F-20 ready to be freed up and I’m all excited about it. What’s your favorite part of the restoration? I enjoy hearing everyone’s recipes for freeing up an engine.

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LWD

10-24-2006 22:38:30




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 Re: Resurrecting Stuck Engines in reply to SproutW, 10-24-2006 08:31:06  
I have found, a little trick,dont throw that oil filter out, take the guts out and put that on the muffler pipe ,they are rounded on the end and dont rust out like a tin can.



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F-Dean

10-24-2006 20:49:20




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 Re: Resurrecting Stuck Engines in reply to SproutW, 10-24-2006 08:31:06  
Care to share your technique?



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SproutW

10-25-2006 05:39:20




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 Re: Resurrecting Stuck Engines in reply to F-Dean, 10-24-2006 20:49:20  
Each tractor I like to take apart and see everything to know what I have. I always pop the head and oil pan off for a stuck engine. Many have freed an engine and ran it without ever taking the head off. I have a hard time with that myself, and worry of trashing sleeves, pistons and rings with all of that rust and gunk in the cylinder walls. I clean the top part of the cylinders, soak and then clean some more. I repeat that process many times untill she comes free with a little force. The engine I have pictured came loose by hand after I repeated the process. I use everything from diesel, transmission fluid, to seafoam and even heat at times. Then at a minimum I hone the sleeves, clean pistons and replace rings. On wet sleeve engines I remove the sleeves and clean the internal engine block and then replace the rubber sealing rings for the sleeves. The engine pictured had a cracked sleeve due to water damage. You just never know what you will find. Never get in a hurry and take your time.

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SproutW

10-24-2006 10:54:45




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 Re: Resurrecting Stuck Engines in reply to SproutW, 10-24-2006 08:31:06  
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Here is the picture that I promised.



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SproutW

10-24-2006 10:59:38




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 Re: Resurrecting Stuck Engines in reply to SproutW, 10-24-2006 10:54:45  
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This is the same engine. A lot of patience, penetrating fluid, and blood is all it took to break her loose.



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Lane R

10-24-2006 09:38:03




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 Re: Resurrecting Stuck Engines in reply to SproutW, 10-24-2006 08:31:06  
Yep, I know what you mean about stress relief. Today couldn't have been a prettier day here in North Central Florida for tractor work... 40 degrees this morning (yes, sometimes it gets cold in Florida). Working on freeing up the engine on my newest addition - my 1953 Super A. This is my first stuck engine project and it is turning out to be a real enjoyable task. We filled up the cylinders with Marvel Mystery Oil and I believe that number 3 and 4 cylinders are free, still waiting on 1 and 2 though. I've got to say that I don't have a favorite part of restoration. There is not one thing that I like less than other things about restoring these old tractors. Maybe the best thing would have to be the day that I get a new one home and start to look it over and plan out my attack on this work of agricultural art.

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ste_fano

10-24-2006 09:14:11




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 Re: Resurrecting Stuck Engines in reply to SproutW, 10-24-2006 08:31:06  
I am not as advanced in restoration knowledge as most of you. I have a Super M, and B that I worked on. I like changing all the fluids,doing a tuneup, ect.. Finding all the gunk from the years of neglect! My B had no oil at all in the rear wheel gears! My daughter helps me paint them, enjoys it, hope she remembers that someday.Turning an old rusty tractor into a shiny red one is fun. Have learned so much from y'all on the board. I'm a school teacher, so summer is my restortation time!

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old

10-24-2006 08:45:37




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 Re: Resurrecting Stuck Engines in reply to SproutW, 10-24-2006 08:31:06  
I just got one unstuck last week or was it the week before. Figured it would be a real pain to do since it had no can over the exhaust but if popped free pretty easy and I didn't even have to open up the engine to get it running. It runs well and has little if any smoke to boot so I got lucky again. Now if I could just find the time and $$ to work on all my projects.

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Jose Filgueiras

10-24-2006 20:52:34




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 Re: Resurrecting Stuck Engines in reply to old, 10-24-2006 08:45:37  
Hi you all I was wondering I need to free my stuck 300 engine(c169), when you get it free do you need to get new rings????? ???



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old

10-24-2006 21:58:04




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 Re: Resurrecting Stuck Engines in reply to Jose Filgueiras, 10-24-2006 20:52:34  
So far for me I have not needed new rings yet. I have popped at least 10 tractor engines loose over the past few years and none have ended up needing new rings. I let them saok with tranny fluid in the cylinders for a few days and so far all have run well and didn't smoke much if any



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